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You guys also have to figure that our bills are going to go up because of fees too. If you want extra's it's going to cost. I got my grandmother hooked up with Dish. She got the top 120 with an HD reciever. So with free HD for life her bill with tax is around $55 a month give or take. She is so happy with that. She did not want a DVR or any extra's. So that right there is pretty damn good. It beat her old TWC set up. Dish includes the first receiver in the package price. So that also helped her.

If you want basic like Top 120 and 1 receiver your good. If you want Hoppers, more channels and so on you gotta pay. The only thing I did not like is the fact that if I would have got her a Hopper she would have had to pay $12 for whole home even though it would only be in one room. If she does want a DVR I will make sure she gets a 722.

I know Dish can't help it that programmers want more money all the time. That's a given but them raising fees all the time is on them. Then again when and if it gets to be to much. It will be time to leave.
 
Gobucks said:
I know Dish can't help it that programmers want more money all the time. That's a given but them raising fees all the time is on them. Then again when and if it gets to be to much. It will be time to leave.
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And go where? I'm not condoning all the fees that providers tack on, but they all do it, and most if not all of the major providers have as high or higher fees than Dish.
 
"If she does want a DVR I will make sure she gets a 722."

For as long as that is an option. I suspect over the next few years it will get harder and harder to get anything but a Hopper. I suspect the Hopper series can do things the ViP and earlier cannot, and these things are services Dish wants to sell in the future. Heck, they may not even have figured out yet every way of squeezing the Hopper dime. That, and a reduction in the code base. MAJOR savings in maintenance and support.

Probably not a concern for your grandmother, though.
 
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Scherrman said:
No matter what we decide to do it's going to end up costing us eventually. If customers leave the cable and satellite providers then the networks are going to get their money from you another way. The only way your going to save money is by not watching TV at all really.
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This is where I disagree,I see tv as a luxury,granted most of us are addicted to it,but as the prices continue to skyrocket,a lot of folks will simply say to heck with it.I'll watch a used dvd,or whatever doesn't cost so much.This is also where the broadcasters need to pay attention,the bubble will at some point burst.The current model of pay 16 billion for MNF and raise rates accordingly,can't possibly work for too much longer.
 
dare2be said:
And go where? I'm not condoning all the fees that providers tack on, but they all do it, and most if not all of the major providers have as high or higher fees than Dish.
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Leave all together. I wasn't trying to bash Dish. So calm down my friend. Some people here I'm not saying you.... are addicted to TV and staying with such and such provider. I'm not. TV is nice and I enjoy it but I can give it up in a second if I have to. I love Walking Dead, Justified and a few other shows. I can get those on Amazon. I go to all the Buckeye home football games so I'm good there. I can go to a bar to watch the away games.

Again I wasn't trying to bash Dish. All I was saying is it seem likes these fees keep going up and up. Yes I know everyone does it.
 
navychop said:
"If she does want a DVR I will make sure she gets a 722."

For as long as that is an option. I suspect over the next few years it will get harder and harder to get anything but a Hopper. I suspect the Hopper series can do things the ViP and earlier cannot, and these things are services Dish wants to sell in the future. Heck, they may not even have figured out yet every was of squeezing the Hopper dime. That, and a reduction in the code base. MAJOR savings in maintenance and support.

Probably not a concern for your grandmother, though.
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Exactly! She is so happy and loves Dish! I bet your dead on with your post.
 
Gobucks said:
Leave all together. I wasn't trying to bash Dish. So calm down my friend. Some people here I'm not saying you.... are addicted to TV and staying with such and such provider. I'm not. TV is nice and I enjoy it but I can give it up in a second if I have to. I love Walking Dead, Justified and a few other shows. I can get those on Amazon. I go to all the Buckeye home football games so I'm good there. I can go to a bar to watch the away games.

Again I wasn't trying to bash Dish. All I was saying is it seem likes these fees keep going up and up. Yes I know everyone does it.
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I'm calm, and I suggest you do the same. :) It was just an honest question of "what would you do?"
 
dare2be said:
And go where? I'm not condoning all the fees that providers tack on, but they all do it, and most if not all of the major providers have as high or higher fees than Dish.
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Reference to an old, CLASSIC mistake: "You're not running a steamship company, you're running a transportation company."

They're not selling us TV. They're selling us Entertainment. And Entertainment can be had from many sources. Heck, a walk in the park is entertainment. There are theaters (both kinds), DVDs/BDs, CDs/MP3s, libraries, concerts, the Internet, video games, board games, cards, parties, etc. Heck, having friends and neighbors over for an evening can make a comeback.

Yes, pay TV is cost constrained. And as it eats up a greater percentage of our income, people will be "encouraged" to look elsewhere. TV programming is not the only game in town, and people may see that it's not so essential after all, that they are NOT forced to pick a pay TV provider- they can do without.
 
navychop said:
Reference to an old, CLASSIC mistake: "You're not running a steamship company, you're running a transportation company."
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And your mistake was assuming I wasn't including "go away" as one of the options. :)
 
navychop said:
"If she does want a DVR I will make sure she gets a 722."

For as long as that is an option. I suspect over the next few years it will get harder and harder to get anything but a Hopper. I suspect the Hopper series can do things the ViP and earlier cannot, and these things are services Dish wants to sell in the future. Heck, they may not even have figured out yet every way of squeezing the Hopper dime. That, and a reduction in the code base. MAJOR savings in maintenance and support.

Probably not a concern for your grandmother, though.
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I suspect it will just come down to Hoppers and 211s. I do not think Dish will give up the low cost single TV solution. The 722's days are numbered.
 
I think this would have been better news if this would have been about Dish and Roku and somehow being able to use a Roku as an extra receiver without the fees. Of course, there would not be a need to drop channels as Dish has done that recently with Cloo for example (although I did not watch that one even when we had it).
 
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