Then they need to put the thread back to its original title, as it would be more accurate. "OLN dropped by dishnetwork??? ", because that is what happened.wicked said:
OLN Dropped by Dish over Programming Disputes
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Dishrich,
Where do you draw the line? Do you subscribe to every channel available on your system (I mean every one?) The answer is probably no. My question is Why not? Probably because at some point you said it costs too much. Your neighbor may not agree. So if your neighbor gets everything, why not you? Are you just being cheap?
As to the cost issue. By dropping a channel to a lower tier and being charged the same amount per subscriber LOWERS THE MARGIN ON THE PACKAGE. You have increased costs on that package. The company needs to either absorb the cost by lowering their margin or raise the price. There is no other alternative.
See ya
Tony
How do I know any of what? I presented two opposing scenerios. The truth is most likely one of them. My money is on OLN's.juan said:
As for my prediction on OLN coming to AT120. It's merely a prediction. Wanna bet a dollar on whether I'm right?
As for my comment on Dishies, I've got 6 pages of this thread to prove that point.
E* cheerleaders vs. E* bashers. I'm on the sidelines for this one. I watched 10 minutes of the TDF this year. I'll watch less hockey than that. And I do have AT180.
Didn't take long for a Charlie devote to come out - imagine that...
We are talking ONE fricken channel here, NOT an entire range - I really don't understand what this has to do with this whole discussion. Again, since you dishies always listen to the E* spin doctors - OLN DID NOT FORCE E* TO TOTALLY REMOVE THE CHANNEL - E* CHOOSE TO DO THIS, BECAUSE HE COULD NOT GET THE NHL FEED OF OLN FOR THE SAME PRICE AS BEFORE!
E* COULD HAVE LEFT EVERYTHING AS-IS, SANS THE NHL, BUT CHOOSE TO STORM OFF IN A HUFF!
Tony, you can do E*'s spinning forever, & it doesn't change this little fact one iota.
Obviously you didn't read my post completely, nor must you understand how prog contracts work. If E* was to move OLN down to AT120, most likely the PER SUB charge to E* would, in fact DECREASE per sub, because in most cases, a prog provider bases the per-sub charge on a sliding scale - get more subs, your PER SUB charge goes down. It's pretty simple & I'm surprised you don't know this. YES, I DO understand it would add to the cost of AT120, but NOT as much as you guys would have everyone believe.
(And BTW - thank you for not putting your reply today over my original post, like you did last night & which I didn't appreciate - I thought that kind of stuff only happened over at the "talk" board & there's no need to do that to get your point across
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TNGTony said:
We are talking ONE fricken channel here, NOT an entire range - I really don't understand what this has to do with this whole discussion. Again, since you dishies always listen to the E* spin doctors - OLN DID NOT FORCE E* TO TOTALLY REMOVE THE CHANNEL - E* CHOOSE TO DO THIS, BECAUSE HE COULD NOT GET THE NHL FEED OF OLN FOR THE SAME PRICE AS BEFORE!
E* COULD HAVE LEFT EVERYTHING AS-IS, SANS THE NHL, BUT CHOOSE TO STORM OFF IN A HUFF!
Tony, you can do E*'s spinning forever, & it doesn't change this little fact one iota.
Obviously you didn't read my post completely, nor must you understand how prog contracts work. If E* was to move OLN down to AT120, most likely the PER SUB charge to E* would, in fact DECREASE per sub, because in most cases, a prog provider bases the per-sub charge on a sliding scale - get more subs, your PER SUB charge goes down. It's pretty simple & I'm surprised you don't know this. YES, I DO understand it would add to the cost of AT120, but NOT as much as you guys would have everyone believe.
(And BTW - thank you for not putting your reply today over my original post, like you did last night & which I didn't appreciate - I thought that kind of stuff only happened over at the "talk" board & there's no need to do that to get your point across
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riffjim4069 said:
I can see maybe joint sharing but the FCC made it abundantly clear there will be no satellite merger period. Of course times change but they were not happy with Voom bowing out either.
ramy said:
The person that watchs that channel and has it pulled would care. I know my father in law would be really pi**es if Golf Channel went away (golf is what he lives for).
Just wondering if there are any Center Ice subscribers on Dish who are complaining. You will pay a lot of money to watch hockey and probably by that subscription alone, you likely pay more money to Dish than any of the cheerleading squad for the Satellite Fuhrer and his sports bashing crew, and you will be struck out of many playoff games. For example, I subscribe to NBA LP, and I'd be pretty burned up if TNT and ESPN playoff games were not available.
welllllllllllllllllllllll charlie is a big democrat...rupert is a very generous republican..the republicans rule the roost!!!!!guess what?? Rupert always get what he wantsBrewer4 said:
BFG said:We'll see the playoffs
Like others have said OLN will be back and available to AT120
It's really just another chance for dish to get attention by the little show
Agreed. I'm not a hockey fan but, I think everyone needs to relax. This is only affects a small number of games and is just a negotiation tactic.
Actually I don't think the NHL will be on OLN next year based upon their ratings on that channel. According to USA Today the ratings are virtually non-existent as being discussed over on DBS Forums:
NHL TV Ratings on OLN
From USA Today:
In its NHL coverage so far, the Outdoor Life Network is averaging .25% of its 64 million households. That's 52% below what ESPN averaged for its first five games two years ago and, with ESPN in about 90 million households, 64% fewer households.
Things looked a bit bleak after Monday's Panthers-Rangers game drew 0.1% of OLN's households and — this isn't a joke — finished in an eight-way tie for the 386th-ranked TV show of the night.
mdonnelly said:
Ditto here.
What I find interesting is how many non E* customers feel some bizarre need to take sides in this silly corporate dispute.
NightRyder
Charlie is A Democrat? Really? A rich Democrat? Isn't that redundant? Finally, I found a reason to like him.
there are lots of rich democrats !!! just look at congress and the senate http://capwiz.com/chamber/bio/fec/?commid=C00330647
:haha I know. It seems that the people most outraged by E* not carrying OLN are the D* and cable subs.NightRyder said:
