Sure, but using that logic to the extreme we should all just get cheapo TCL Roku TVs because they are only x% worse.
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Just throwing in my .02 on what I have. OP didn't specify which Samsung QLED series. But yes, 900F is mid level for Sony.
Same here. I helped a friend mount a 77" oled on Superbowl sunday. Awesome set, but no way I'd pay $7K for a TV. $2500 at the time for my 75X900E was my price point.
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I’m quite happy with my XBR-65X900F! It didn’t have the PQ of an OLED, but it also didn’t have OLED problems or price.
Big step up for me. Can’t imagine it being “mid-range” across all brands. And I also can’t imagine another Sony having better PQ. More features, maybe.
And I’ve really come to love the ease of use of Android TV. The spoken search commands feature works way better than I expected. Actually, I didn’t expect it to have that feature at all. I think it’s gotten it wrong only once.
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Big step up for me. Can’t imagine it being “mid-range” across all brands. And I also can’t imagine another Sony having better PQ. More features, maybe.
And I’ve really come to love the ease of use of Android TV. The spoken search commands feature works way better than I expected. Actually, I didn’t expect it to have that feature at all. I think it’s gotten it wrong only once.
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As I think about it, I think a selling point was the 900F does both DV and HDR.
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I own the Sony XBR-65X900E. It does not do Dolby Vision but the picture quality particularly with HDR UHD content is excellent. Also the Android TV features work very well. I paid $1926 in September 2017 at Best Buy. It is now 1.5 years old. And I did not need to buy an extended warranty since it doesn’t suffer burnin. With the money I saved by not buying an OLED set, I can pay for a lot of content. I always caution my friends to not buy the most expensive when the mid price TV’s are almost as good.
The Sony XBR65X900F are now $1273 at BHPhotovideo.com. That is the set that I have told my son to buy.
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The Sony XBR65X900F are now $1273 at BHPhotovideo.com. That is the set that I have told my son to buy.
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I just purchased the LG C8 OLED, if I was doing it over, I'd go with the Samsung QLED mainly because of motion issues. First thing I noticed was the soap opera effect, ( I'm sensitive to it) after a couple of weeks of tinkering finally found the sweet spot but what a PIA. When you spend this kind of money on a TV it should just work.
The Sony OLED's are better with little or no motion issues from what I've gathered but also much pricier. (1K)
With the LG you can turn off true motion (gets rid of soap opera) but this brings on other issues like motion jitter and blur with any fast movement which I' also sensitive too.
I'll never get another OLED, having deep blacks just isn't worth it IMO.
Samsung QLEDS are near OLED blacks with brighter HDR with no risk of burn-in.
The Sony OLED's are better with little or no motion issues from what I've gathered but also much pricier. (1K)
With the LG you can turn off true motion (gets rid of soap opera) but this brings on other issues like motion jitter and blur with any fast movement which I' also sensitive too.
I'll never get another OLED, having deep blacks just isn't worth it IMO.
Samsung QLEDS are near OLED blacks with brighter HDR with no risk of burn-in.
Having seen the picture and heard the sound on some of the TCL models, to summarily ignore them may be a mistake. Some of them come in at under $600 for a 65" model and the picture is perhaps good enough for other than Ultra-Blu-ray viewing (unless you're perceptions are very heavily influenced by specifications).
To insist that a brand name TV must logically be better than the TVs from the company that manufactures some of the brand name TVs may be a difficult sell.
Sharp, GE and Toshiba (Hisense), JVC (Shenzen MTC), Magnavox, Philips, Sanyo (Funai) and RCA (ON Corporation) are all brands that are manufactured under license.
Then we have the situation where TVs using the same panels are rated differently in terms of performance. rtings rates the Sony OLED TVs as having a better overall picture than the LG TVs even though the both use LG panels. The Sonys fall down in comparisons perhaps due to their price point being more than 50% higher (the sports and video games metrics are .1 in favor of the C8 while the HDR performance is .1 in favor of the Sony AF9).
The other difference between the 2018 OLED sets from Sony and LG was the Sony's seem more protective of their panels, having a lower maximum light output than the LGs. Maybe to make them less susceptible to burn-in?
LG's (at least the LED models) are known for being set almost to torch-mode from the factory, and blowing out or intermittent shorting out LED's. Which causes the power supply to crowbar, and shut down the set. I had that happen to my 2013 3D LG, finally figured out what it was (Youtube video told me), tore down the set and replaced the LED's (NOT easy!), then turned down the brightness quite a bit. That was in January of 2017, and I've had NO issues since then.
It's a hair darker than I'd like, but it continues to work just fine.
Not my exact set, but close enough. Let me warn you though, once you get the actual screen out, it's like trying to hold onto a large thin sheet of ICE, and keeping it from snapping in half or knicking:
It's a hair darker than I'd like, but it continues to work just fine.
Not my exact set, but close enough. Let me warn you though, once you get the actual screen out, it's like trying to hold onto a large thin sheet of ICE, and keeping it from snapping in half or knicking:
Seems logical. Sony is perhaps the last company you would expect to ship something with the potential to self-destruct while LG is clearly willing to risk it.
Well, I think I am going to try another LG, this time LED. What do ya'll think of this model?
LG 55SK9000PUA: 55 Inch Class 4K HDR Smart LED SUPER UHD TV w/ AI ThinQ® | LG USA
LG 55SK9000PUA: 55 Inch Class 4K HDR Smart LED SUPER UHD TV w/ AI ThinQ® | LG USA
Get a separate warranty, because LG SUCKS at warranty coverage. They'll make you package it and send it somewhere for repair, OR send you modules, and ask you to tear down the set and install them yourself, etc.
Also, after my experience with shorted LED's, I'd turn down the brightness to the point where it's ok, but not way up where they factory set it, just in case that problem still exists.
Otherwise it looks like a great tv set.
Thanks. I will definitely get at least get a two year BB warranty. Will wait to the maximum time to purchase it (usually around 90 days or so) like I did with the OLED. I like the way the apps are set up in the LG and Amazon Prime app is included. I am going to keep the OLED and put it in my kitchen.
For about same price +50$ more I would go with the 2018 model 55 inch Samsung Q7F 4k QLED TV. Better rating by Rting.com and near OLED blacks.
I like the way LG has their apps better than Samsung. Got three Samsung smart model TVs now.
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Okay If you change your mind or wonder about where I found the price normally around $1,700 on Amazon listed at $1,079.
I bought LG OLD65B7P from Costco on Feb. 2018. In 2020 we started to see burn in we could see logos, they mute symbol and some unexplaned box in the middle of the screen. I contacted LG and they said they would replace the panel. It took a couple of months during covid but they replaced it and also the driver boards. Now again in 2022 we are starting to see burn in again. The picture quality is great on OLED until its not. I have the pixel shift turned on and ran the pixel refresh every two weeks after the panel was replaced but that did not stop it from burning in again. On mine it looks like the heat of the boards behind the panel eventually cause the pixels to degrade.
Probably going with Neo QLED for the next TV.
Probably going with Neo QLED for the next TV.
I'm sure glad Best Buy let me keep my OLED when I had the burn in issue. It still works great with the burn-in issue.
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