I can't believe, after seven years, a customer would stay with Dish if that was an issue for them. It seemed to me that any sports fan in NY would have chosen a different provider LONG ago.
Official SatelliteGuys CBS / DISH Dispute Thread
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I almost missed this whole mess.
I DVR everything I watch. I only saw the crawl on thanksgiving. When I checked on Black Friday morning CBS LA was back on.
Did I miss any new NCIS episodes? Did I miss an opportunity to ask for some money?
I haven't read this entire thread.
I DVR everything I watch. I only saw the crawl on thanksgiving. When I checked on Black Friday morning CBS LA was back on.
Did I miss any new NCIS episodes? Did I miss an opportunity to ask for some money?
I haven't read this entire thread.
I just checked, and CBSSN is also HD-only on Eastern Arc. That just leaves POP, which is SD-only on both arcs.
I just checked, and CBSSN is also HD-only on Eastern Arc. That just leaves POP, which is SD-only on both arcs.
Thanks. Definitely all in SD on Western Arc. When Dish added the Olympic Channel in only HD on both arcs, I thought that was going to be a start of adding channels only in HD to Western Arc.
Well, in the case of CBSSN and Smithsonian, it was the return of channels that had previously been offered, not a new channel launch. So, Dish simply put things back exactly the way they were before the dispute started.
Well, I am grateful for that. Wish we got AutoHop back too.
CBS is never going to give up autohop after 8 days or more. It would be great and funny if Dish activated autohop on OTA channels that have a satellite counter the next day. The stations couldn’t do anything about that, as Dish has no responsibility or obligation to their OTA channel. That would encourage more customers to use OTA, and drop satellite locAls, saving everyone more money, and screwing the broadcasters out of two of their paydays in the process. Fight back. Haha, it’s a pipe dream.
What a great idea. Wish we could ask Charlie about that.
CBSSN is HD on western arc, always has been...
Sorry, that wasn't clear on my part. I meant "definitely all in SD" compared to just POP on EA. I knew that both CBSSN and Smith were in HD on both arcs.
I didn't say this during the outage, but Dish should rethink how they state a local being dropped during a dispute, on the channel cards.
For Boston, it stated "WBZ took away (or whatever variant) CBS4." It was more like CBS took away WBZ 4. My big deal with the semantics is that they shouldn't make it sound as if the local affiliate was to blame. It was the greedy network that owned the local affiliate. CBS wanted to be pulled, not necessarily WBZ or whatever local affiliate was taken in your market. That goes a long way to address the issue. They did the same thing when the Hearst stations were taken down last summer. "WCVB took away ABC 5." Again, no, Hearst took away WCVB (ABC) 5.
For Boston, it stated "WBZ took away (or whatever variant) CBS4." It was more like CBS took away WBZ 4. My big deal with the semantics is that they shouldn't make it sound as if the local affiliate was to blame. It was the greedy network that owned the local affiliate. CBS wanted to be pulled, not necessarily WBZ or whatever local affiliate was taken in your market. That goes a long way to address the issue. They did the same thing when the Hearst stations were taken down last summer. "WCVB took away ABC 5." Again, no, Hearst took away WCVB (ABC) 5.
Dish probably does it this way so they can boiler-plate cut-and-paste the take-down message from the guide data for the station. (call letters, network affiliation, channel number) The name of the company that owns the station is not included in the guide data (except for network owned stations such as the recent CBS dispute) so the "Hearst" in your example could not automatically be filled-in as easily. Someone would have to manually add it.
The stations don't really have a lot of say. The owners do. And since we're talking semantics, neither the station nor the owners is "withholding" the signal. It still gets sent to the MVPD, the MVPD just can't forward it on to their subscribers.
So you think the station can tell the MVPD "sure, go ahead and air us"? At that level the stations don't even talk to the MVPDs.
The station owner negotiates the retransmission contracts and directs their station(s) compliance with those contracts. End of story...
