Don't worry about it, I was just clarifying things.I know. That's exactly what I was talking about. My posts sure are getting misunderstood alot today.
A lot of folks have been writing me asking did you try to...
So just posting exactly what I did.
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A lot of folks have been writing me asking did you try to...
So just posting exactly what I did.
No, Dish rolls out updates to its CSR's PC starting at 5am ET.
While some CSR's will be able to take orders at 5am, others might not have access to do it until later in the morning. (we have seen this before when VOOM came online)
While some CSR's will be able to take orders at 5am, others might not have access to do it until later in the morning. (we have seen this before when VOOM came online)
Someone else speculated, and I agree, that if the 622 sees NO existing files on the drive, it doesn't ask about formatting it. It just does it. I've looked at a blank drive, just formatted by XP, and it always has a "System Volume Information" folder (don't know if this is a "virtual" folder or not). Does it only do this with NTFS or does it do it with FAT32 too ?? I'll bet the factory format, in FAT32, contains NO add'l files or folders and that's why some people aren't getting the prompts, so long as they keep the drives away from their PCs.
Hey now!! I resemble that.Tomorrow we will know all details. We have a lot of geeks here !
Someone else speculated, and I agree, that if the 622 sees NO existing files on the drive, it doesn't ask about formatting it. It just does it. I've looked at a blank drive, just formatted by XP, and it always has a "System Volume Information" folder (don't know if this is a "virtual" folder or not). Does it only do this with NTFS or does it do it with FAT32 too ?? I'll bet the factory format, in FAT32, contains NO add'l files or folders and that's why some people aren't getting the prompts, so long as they keep the drives away from their PCs.
The foldel is real, but secured to Admins by default - add permissions to all and you'll see what in there.
I wonder what would happen if I formatted it as linux native before plugging it in for the first time.
Get the details from him, http://www.satelliteguys.us/988817-post118.html, so you can attempt to create the proper partitions and see what it does.I wonder what would happen if I formatted it as linux native before plugging it in for the first time.
From the sounds of it though, you may not even know that it re-partitions or formats the drive and if you got it right or not.
"Someone else speculated, and I agree, that if the 622 sees NO existing files on the drive, it doesn't ask about formatting it. "
I tried it both ways last might with my WD My Book: "Right out of the box", it actually had a bunch of stuff on it (freeware, utils, Adobe, etc). Plugged it in like that, got the option to manage but no option to format. Then I plugged the thing back into my PC, erased everything, plugged it back into the 622, same thing. So, whatever ever is causing drives to get format option or no format option (inspite of being recognized), it doesn't seem to be the existance of data on the drive. Not a great test because that sys vol info was still there. The real test would have been a fresh format, but my geek factor wasn't high enough to go that far. Tomorrow is soon enough...
He's my prediction: If a disk doesn't automatically prompt to be formatted when detected, once we've activated the feature and can get into the Manage menu, there will be an option to format in there.
I tried it both ways last might with my WD My Book: "Right out of the box", it actually had a bunch of stuff on it (freeware, utils, Adobe, etc). Plugged it in like that, got the option to manage but no option to format. Then I plugged the thing back into my PC, erased everything, plugged it back into the 622, same thing. So, whatever ever is causing drives to get format option or no format option (inspite of being recognized), it doesn't seem to be the existance of data on the drive. Not a great test because that sys vol info was still there. The real test would have been a fresh format, but my geek factor wasn't high enough to go that far. Tomorrow is soon enough...
He's my prediction: If a disk doesn't automatically prompt to be formatted when detected, once we've activated the feature and can get into the Manage menu, there will be an option to format in there.
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If it repartitions or recreates the file system, it will generate a new UUID (universally unique identifier) for each partition/filesystem it creates.
If I :
tune2fs -l /dev/node
after I format it as linux native on my linux PC (I don't have windows any more) and then run that again after it's been plugged into the 622, then I could see if the UUID has changed.
Typical tune2fs output...
tune2fs -l /dev/sdc2
tune2fs 1.35 (28-Feb-2004)
Filesystem volume name: root
Last mounted on: <not available>
Filesystem UUID: 7d99ac7d-9fc5-42ea-8f47-f2fb92b6b8de
Filesystem magic number: 0xEF53
Filesystem revision #: 1 (dynamic)
Filesystem features: has_journal resize_inode filetype needs_recovery sparse_super large_file
Default mount options: (none)
Filesystem state: clean
Errors behavior: Continue
Filesystem OS type: Linux
Inode count: 2076704
Block count: 4152802
Reserved block count: 207640
Free blocks: 4068278
Free inodes: 2076693
First block: 0
Block size: 4096
Fragment size: 4096
Blocks per group: 32768
Fragments per group: 32768
Inodes per group: 16352
Inode blocks per group: 511
Filesystem created: Fri Mar 4 13:13:51 2005
Last mount time: Fri Mar 4 13:15:17 2005
Last write time: Fri Mar 4 13:15:17 2005
Mount count: 1
Maximum mount count: 32
Last checked: Fri Mar 4 13:13:51 2005
Check interval: 15552000 (6 months)
Next check after: Wed Aug 31 14:13:51 2005
Reserved blocks uid: 0 (user root)
Reserved blocks gid: 0 (group root)
First inode: 11
Inode size: 128
Journal inode: 8
Default directory hash: tea
Directory Hash Seed: db72f256-ab6d-44ff-9fc5-f6256a64bcde
Journal backup: inode blocks
OK, you've now crossed over into the realm of super nerds, whereby even regular nerds steal your lunch money and throw rocks at you.
Who did I call an idiot ??
Yes, I experiment, especially when I don't know enough about something. I do know that the 622 is NOT going to use something like FAT32 or NTFS so I wouldn't bother. If people want to, have at it.
dang it! I thought I had a USB enclosure here. I been sitting here all smug and thinking I'll just slap a 160GB IDE drive into the enclosure and I'll be off and running.....
I just took the "enclosure" off the shelf. It's not an enclosure. It's one of my removable drive carriers. (oops). So I either have to BUY a usb enclosure (yuck) or find plans to make one. ..... before tomorrow..... hmmmm... this could be tough.
I have a question, do I leave my hard drive on all the time or do I need to power it off when I'm not using it? I bought 2 500GB My Book WD and one of the power on and off buttons don't work. I will have to take it back to BB and exchange it.
This will be rough having to get up and go push the power button if I decide to watch something on the hard drive. I'm not to smart on this so someone give me some advice please.
This will be rough having to get up and go push the power button if I decide to watch something on the hard drive. I'm not to smart on this so someone give me some advice please.
The receiver only appears to "read" it when you specifically access it. I thought it would integrate the recordings into "My Recordings" but that doesn't sound to be the case.
You can leave them turned on all the time or turn them off when you don't need the shows from them.
You can leave them turned on all the time or turn them off when you don't need the shows from them.
