OFFICIAL DISH / FOX ORDEAL DISCUSSION THREAD
- Thread starter zippyfrog
- Start date
- Latest activity Latest activity:
- Replies 3K
- Views 474K
It looks like there are also some privately owned Fox channels that might be pulled.
Cleveland has asked News Corp to negotiate for them, too, and I'm sure that there are more... (I can't post a link because I'm new, but if you google 'cleveland fox dish network dispute', it should come up.)
This means there will be more stations lost than the list of 10+ from a few pages ago. Whatever it is, this is going to be BAD for ratings, and that will affect News Corp in the end...
Cleveland has asked News Corp to negotiate for them, too, and I'm sure that there are more... (I can't post a link because I'm new, but if you google 'cleveland fox dish network dispute', it should come up.)
This means there will be more stations lost than the list of 10+ from a few pages ago. Whatever it is, this is going to be BAD for ratings, and that will affect News Corp in the end...
Here is a list of the markets and stations that will be effected...
FOX Owned and Operated
New York
WNYW, WWOR
Los Angeles
KTTV, KCOP
Chicago
WFLD, WPWR
Philadelphia
WTXF
Dallas/Ft.Worth
KDFW, KDFI
Boston
WFXT
Atlanta
WAGA
Washington D.C.
WTTG, WDCA
Houston
KRIV, KTXH
Detroit
WJBK
Phoenix
KSAZ, KUTP
Tampa
WTVT
Minneapolis/St.Paul
KMSP, WFTC
Orlando (Ocala-Gainsville)
WOFL (WOGX), WRBW
Baltimore
WUTB
Austin
KTBC
Memphis
WHBQ
LOCAL TV LLC Stations
Denver
KDVR
Cleveland
WJW
Saint Louis
KTVI
Kansas City
WDAF
Salt Lake City
KSTU
Milwaukee
WITI
High Point, NC
WGHP
If you don't want to hear the whining YOU LEAVE...I pay 120.00 a month for a service and I don't get the service I pay for...you bet I'm going to whine. I don't care who's fault it is...I pay DISH...this is the DISH Forum..
I wonder if FOX will get mad at Dish like they are at Cablevision. Fox claims Cablevision is violating the law by directing FOX customers to FOX web sites to view programming for free!
Media Life Magazine - Fox-Cablevision dispute gets even uglier
Interesting position by FOX. They put their prime time lineup onlike but claim it is illegal for cablevision to suggest there is a way to watch without paying for it on Cablevision.
Media Life Magazine - Fox-Cablevision dispute gets even uglier
Interesting position by FOX. They put their prime time lineup onlike but claim it is illegal for cablevision to suggest there is a way to watch without paying for it on Cablevision.
Likely only has a license to provide guide data for channels they carry.
I think many of you overstate Dish's presence in many of these cities. The impact to bottom line of Dish as customers leave and enter into contracts with other providers is much more damaging to Dish than any ratings fallout Fox would see. In the end people just want their programming, they don't care who is to blame. The whole pay TV model is built around customer acquisition and then retention, Dish has a ton more to lose.
Anyone know if any of the local fox affiliates owned by Meredith could be affected? I live in Asheville and am serviced by Fox 21 WHNS.
I fear you are right. They should be upset with Fox and not Dish. Dish does not pull the O&O's, Fox does. Fox is being unreasonable. It's high time that provders stand up to corporate greed and say enough is enough. If all providers stand together the network's will back off .
It's really hard to say who is being unreasonable without actual numbers. As-is both are to blame and many of those Dish customers will never come back, but will happily tune into the World Series, American Idol, Glee, House, NFL Football, Super Bowl, etc.
Cablevision offered to pay FOX what they wanted, but for only one year, so people could at least see the World Series and to also give both sides more time to hammer things out without customers being up in arms.... FOX said no. That is the kinda people DISH is dealing with.
Define 'what they wanted' ? Is that the Time Warner package price? This from the FCC letters I haven't had a chance to read yet?
I think FOX sees the writing on the wall an realises that if they do not act this year and sign multiyear deals their window of opportunity will pass. FOX sees sub counts across all providers continuously with their cable channels like FOX news. They know cord cutting is starting to become a reality, and they figure now is the time to get the price increase in and make the money for the next few years. If they do a 1 year contract with Cablevision they will probably be in a weaker position next year.
I also heard that they offered Fox the same rate TWC was paying them. Like all claims, even if they are true, there is usually more to a story than just one side of one issue.
From what I have read, TWC's contract with Fox has an agreement to carry a certain of channels in addition to these disputed Fox channels. In doing so, TWC gets a discounted rate from FOX for some of these channels, including locals. Cabelvision offered to pay the same rate TWC was paying for Fox locals, which happens to be this discounted rate, without agreeing to the rest of the terms of that carriage deal, the carriage of the other channels.
Credit goes to mestevo posting on another site: http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?p=2621423#post2621423
I got that info from an article posted in one thread or another, it's explained here and in many search results for Time Warner, Fox, Cabelvision: Fox rejects Cablevision's offer to end impasse - Business - Media biz - msnbc.com
Similar threads
- Locked
