Obama Calls On FCC To Reclassify Internet And Implement Tough Net Neutrality Rules

As the price of video delivery drops in one area, I can guarantee that the cost of delivering it over cable or air will increase tremendously...
 
This may help drop the price of video delivery in that an existing service can be used to broadcast the video (internet) instead of having to create a cable buildout or launch satellites to start a new service.
The problem with this theory is that it ignores the power of the NCTA and the NAB to supress such alternatives. It wasn't that long ago that we were talking about Aereo and how it was going to shake the foundations of television delivery.

For their part, the NCTA would be more than happy to tax the hell out of their broadband products if they thought it would stop streaming.
 
I'm not sure where the FCC thinks they have any say over what happens on the Internet and how providers do business with would-be carriers.
Two words, Interstate Commerce. Internet Data crosses over state lines and travels along the fiber optic system of a number of companies. In general, most of the travel happens along lines not owned by the company trying to hijack our data. Comcast, Time Warner own the end of the line and want, in essence, to establish a toll of sorts.
 
Two words, Interstate Commerce. Internet Data crosses over state lines and travels along the fiber optic system of a number of companies. In general, most of the travel happens along lines not owned by the company trying to hijack our data. Comcast, Time Warner own the end of the line and want, in essence, to establish a toll of sorts.
Who owns the internet? The actual fiber and associated equipment
 
Who owns the internet? The actual fiber and associated equipment
That's the thing. It is multiple companies (and the local ISPs own the least of it). Telephone lines are owned by the telecoms, transmission lines are owned by the electric companies, but they are both utilities.

Look at it this way, when 14.4k to DSL was running (is running), it does so over the telephone or cable lines. How in the world does that exempt it from the level of utility as the telephone and cable companies?
 
Many companies own the lines in between. Some places you have lines laid together owned by multiple companies, but the local isps are just the gatekeepers at the end of the line
 
That's the thing. It is multiple companies (and the local ISPs own the least of it). Telephone lines are owned by the telecoms, transmission lines are owned by the electric companies, but they are both utilities.

Look at it this way, when 14.4k to DSL was running (is running), it does so over the telephone or cable lines. How in the world does that exempt it from the level of utility as the telephone and cable companies?
huh Electric company has nothing to do with internet..Comcast, Timewarner, Verizon,ATT all own a big chunk of the backbone
 
huh Electric company has nothing to do with internet..
It does in the sense that the electric company owns the infrastructure to transmit the electricity.
Comcast, Timewarner, Verizon,ATT all own a big chunk of the backbone
Verizon, yes. And I suppose ATT as well.

But you also have Worldcom, Level III, Qwest Communications, etc...
 
Electric companies own a lot of the poles that the fiber and copper lines are hung on.
yes but the internet is just a series of routers some small (in your house), some big (isp) and some huge (Backbone) . These routers form a network and talk to each other. It doesn't really matter who owns the fibers just who controls the information flowing thru them
 
yes but the internet is just a series of routers some small (in your house), some big (isp) and some huge (Backbone) . These routers form a network and talk to each other. It doesn't really matter who owns the fibers just who controls the information flowing thru them

how is that information going to flow through anything without the fiber
 
yes but the internet is just a series of routers some small (in your house), some big (isp) and some huge (Backbone) . These routers form a network and talk to each other. It doesn't really matter who owns the fibers just who controls the information flowing thru them

The key question the FCC is addressing is if the internet is the same as electricity when it comes to the lives of Americans.

20 years ago, you could probably argue that the internet was not really that important to the ordinary American.

Now, however, the internet has become extremely important to the ordinary American, right up there with electricity. Companies delivering the internet deserve to make a profit, the question is of course how much of a profit given the importance of internet to the average American. Companies delivering the internet of course use the public right of ways - there is no other way that they can deliver the internet. This gives regulators the leverage needed to decide on profit verses the public good.
 
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The key question the FCC is addressing is if the internet is the same as electricity when it comes to the lives of Americans.

20 years ago, you could probably argue that the internet was not really that important to the ordinary American.

Now, however, the internet has become extremely important to the ordinary American, right up there with electricity. Companies delivering the internet deserve to make a profit, the question is of course how much of a profit given the importance of internet to the average American. Companies delivering the internet of course use the public right of ways - there is no other way that they can deliver the internet. This gives regulators the leverage needed to decide on profit verses the public good.
phone service not electricity but you nailed it
 

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