Not happy with the Dish Hopper DVR
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I'm watching a Football game right now,the wife is watching QVC in the bedroom (hopefully not ordering anything), two kids each in their own bedroom watching something. That is pretty typical in my home, and I am sure quite a few others.
There is where the false advertising starts.
Id much rather have a Directv HR35 with 5 Tuners, than a Hopper with 3 Tuners and Prime Time anytime.
You tell people that they can record 6 shows, they expect to record 6 shows. People are not going to understand the concept of using 1 Tuner to record all 4 networks because all the programming happens to be on the same transponder.
Yes Mr customer the Hopper can record 6 shows at once, but not the shows you want to watch. 4 Of those shows have to be a network Tv channel between 8 and 11pm. If you don't care to watch whats showing on Fox for example, your DVR is going to record it for you anyways,
rapidturtle said:
Agreed. We have a 922 and two 722's for 4 TV's. I can say that 4+ tuners are in use more often than not.
I'm recording both games that we will watch after dinner (at about 90mins each). And don't the kids have timers to catch their shows? But i admit TV shopping and news aren't DVR material.
Hmmm. Maybe I should start a TV watching boot-camp. Sounds like too many amateurs out there.
Speaking of DVRed football, don't you hate hurry up offense? Got to jump ahead 30 then back a 5.
Hmmm. Maybe I should start a TV watching boot-camp. Sounds like too many amateurs out there.
Speaking of DVRed football, don't you hate hurry up offense? Got to jump ahead 30 then back a 5.
I'm betting it was seen as a solution in search of a problem (much like PTAT).
I'm assuming you munged the model number but what is the motivation behind a five slot switch back in the DP days?
Ask yourself the question again in the context of a home that has a whole home DVR setup.
I believe Dish set their MRV system with hoppers for two reasons.
1. To do something nobody else in an attempt to attract a different market.
2. With their low base prices, they depend a lot on equipment fees. By limiting the number of tuners it forces people to use additional equipment and thus equipment fees.
They can now claim that subs can record just as much or more at one time as any other provider. Even though they are using fewer tuners.
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1. To do something nobody else in an attempt to attract a different market.
2. With their low base prices, they depend a lot on equipment fees. By limiting the number of tuners it forces people to use additional equipment and thus equipment fees.
They can now claim that subs can record just as much or more at one time as any other provider. Even though they are using fewer tuners.
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you can turn off PTAT and set timers like normal. That would give you all 3 tuners available
Then they aren't doing it right.
LMAO, I knew I wasn't the only one with that peeve.
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i agree, it would be a downgrade in my household to go to a three tuner hopper when i have four tuners now and don't watch much PTAT.
It ultimately comes down to pricing. If they make it very inexpensive to upgrade without higher monthly fees, then I'll live with one less tuner.
Customers are ok with making concessions as long as the price is right. There are benefits to the system like having HD and internet connectivity in every room.
It seems to me that if the Joeys aren't really a independent receiver, then they should be very cheap, or free as far as a monthly fee goes. If the first receiver (Hopper) is free then maybe equipment fee's will be minimal for this setup. $7 dvr and a $5 multiroom fee possibly. I really doubt it, but it would be good marketing against D*, and also nice for us.
The choice features and overall build quality may come from VP and bean-counters.
But, the bugs come from Engineering.
How often do you watch live TV? Unless it's sports nobody in my house watches live TV anymore unless we are absolutely bored to death - at which point I jump onto these forums.
Case in point, we have 35 weekly timers, and that's just on my 922 (we watch way to much TV). There are very few conflicts except on Monday, and the PrimeTime Anytime feature would completely eliminate that. So for us, having HD and full DVR functionality on all 4 tv's in the house is perfect and much better than D* HR34.
Not to mention that my older kids don't even watch traditional TV anymore. Unless it's on their laptop, then it's a no go. They watch more stuff at dishonline.com than anything else. Plus, I have a daughter at Mizzou and she uses dishonline.com a ton and, on the extremely rare (and I mean extremely) times she wants to watch something live, she accesses our 922 remotely.
I think everyone's getting wrapped up into how many tuners are on the Hopper as opposed to realistically evaluating our viewing habits.
I agree on the price concern for the 2nd Hopper.
Any thing more than $99 extra for the 2nd Hopper and they risk loosing new customers to the DirecTV HR34, they need to price match BASED on the total number of tuners for the total solution.
Two Hopper and Two Joey= a 6 Tuners solution that matches the DirecTV HR34.
One Hopper and Two Joey= really a 2 Tuner solution as one it tied up to Prime time.
Any thing more than $99 extra for the 2nd Hopper and they risk loosing new customers to the DirecTV HR34, they need to price match BASED on the total number of tuners for the total solution.
Two Hopper and Two Joey= a 6 Tuners solution that matches the DirecTV HR34.
One Hopper and Two Joey= really a 2 Tuner solution as one it tied up to Prime time.
I agree with your Bet. In a house hold with just Two Viewers it is perfect. In a House with 3 to 4 viewers you need a 2nd Hopper. Hopefully it will only be $99 for a 2nd one and they wont make us out right buy it for $400 like they have done in the past for a 2nd new generation box.
