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ripnbigc

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Wasn't the 622 and 722 supposed to get a software update yesterday to fix the Seagate EHD problems and give us folders on the EHD also?:confused:
 
Where did you hear/read that the software update is going to fix the Seagate EHD issue? I've gotten so used to unplugging and plugging that thing in I don't know what I'd do if it just worked... And folders, hmmmm, folders :)
 
Where did you hear/read that the software update is going to fix the Seagate EHD issue? I've gotten so used to unplugging and plugging that thing in I don't know what I'd do if it just worked... And folders, hmmmm, folders :)

The last Tech Chat.
 
YEAH! Now I can't wait for that to spool. Sweet.

BTW - was it mentioned whether the fix is to just keep the hard drive awake (periodic pings, for example) or finally be smart enough to wake it up properly when necessary? I certainly hope it's the latter...
 
YEAH! Now I can't wait for that to spool. Sweet.

BTW - was it mentioned whether the fix is to just keep the hard drive awake (periodic pings, for example) or finally be smart enough to wake it up properly when necessary? I certainly hope it's the latter...

They didn't go into detail on the fix.
 
Seagate EHDs like the FreeAgent that go to sleep can be adjusted by use of a Seagate utility to not ever go to sleep again. The drives are set to default to a sleep mode but can be changed. No Dish "fix" is needed.

Seagate bare drives matched up with another type of enclosure don't have this issue at all.
 
Seagate EHDs like the FreeAgent that go to sleep can be adjusted by use of a Seagate utility to not ever go to sleep again. The drives are set to default to a sleep mode but can be changed. No Dish "fix" is needed.

Seagate bare drives matched up with another type of enclosure don't have this issue at all.

I'm really more interested in the folders option that is supposed to be in the same update.
 
Seagate EHDs like the FreeAgent that go to sleep can be adjusted by use of a Seagate utility to not ever go to sleep again. The drives are set to default to a sleep mode but can be changed. No Dish "fix" is needed.

Actually, a fix is needed b/c 1) I shouldn't have to hook up the drive to a computer just to get functionality 2) Seagate's software only runs on Windows (not my Mac) and 3) I don't want it to "not ever go to sleep again." I want it to go to sleep when it's not in use and wake up when I try to access it (which is the way I assume it works with every other EHD).

If Dish had an official list of approved hard drives that would be different. And no, I don't expect them to test every single EHD out there. But the FreeAgents are extremely popular, almost always on sale at one of the big box stores, and they only ones that I've ever heard of that have this problem. Dish should take it upon themselves to get this resolved.
 
Actually, a fix is needed b/c 1) I shouldn't have to hook up the drive to a computer just to get functionality 2) Seagate's software only runs on Windows (not my Mac) and 3) I don't want it to "not ever go to sleep again." I want it to go to sleep when it's not in use and wake up when I try to access it (which is the way I assume it works with every other EHD).

The FreeAgent is a turnkey solution for desktop data storage, not a video archive/ video dvr drive.

Buy a bare seagate and you won't need the fix. I have three seagate drives all designed specifically for video and I don't have any trouble with any of them.

If Dish had an approved list, people would be screaming about how there are much cheaper drives that are the same or better than the list so why should they bother?
 
...I want it to go to sleep when it's not in use and wake up when I try to access it (which is the way I assume it works with every other EHD)...

Better check on that assumption. My drives are good for 24/7 operation unless I cut the power. I don't need or want some routine written by DISH to turn off my drive and then try to turn it on again. They have enough programming work still to o without adding that disaster in.
 
Dish need to implement the appoved list for EHD

The FreeAgent is a turnkey solution for desktop data storage, not a video archive/ video dvr drive.

Buy a bare seagate and you won't need the fix. I have three seagate drives all designed specifically for video and I don't have any trouble with any of them.

If Dish had an approved list, people would be screaming about how there are much cheaper drives that are the same or better than the list so why should they bother?
Dish have an approved list of internal drives for practically all DVR ( exclude 721 and 921 ).
So, what would be difference for external then ? ;)
 
The FreeAgent is a turnkey solution for desktop data storage, not a video archive/ video dvr drive.

Buy a bare seagate and you won't need the fix. I have three seagate drives all designed specifically for video and I don't have any trouble with any of them.

But there are plenty of other similar turnkey solutions out there (Western Digital, FreeAgent Pro(right?), etc.) that work just fine. And the general user is not going to buy a bare seagate and an enclosure.

Dish never says anything about needing/requiring a "video archive/video dvr drive":

You can connect a compatible USB 2.0 external hard drive to the receiver to store recorded DVR events. Only one USB device (such as an external hard drive or a PocketDISH) can be connected to the receiver at a time. The receiver will ignore the last device connected.

External Hard Drive Requirements

* USB 2.0
* Size between 40GB and 750 GB
* Must have its own AC power adapter. Don’t try to power it off the receiver’s USB ports.
* No dual drives (two drives in one physical case)
* No flash-memory drives
* No hybrid drives (flash memory plus traditional disk in one physical case)
* A one-time External Hard Drive Activation Fee on your account
o This fee allows an external drive to be passed or shared among all supported receiver on the same account

The expectation of most users (not geeks that read this forum) is that they can pick up a hard drive at Best Buy or Fry's, plug it in, pay their $40, and then it works. And that's not happening for a very popular, cheap external hard drive that is manufactured by one of the three or four big names in hard drives.
 
* A one-time External Hard Drive Activation Fee on your account
o This fee allows an external drive to be passed or shared among all supported receiver on the same account

i just activated my 722 - does that mean i don't have to pay an additional $40 for the 211?

also, i guess i can i use the EHD on my 722 on my 211 then, too correct? and once i get my second EHD that too can go on either or? they're not 'married' to a particular unit?

thanks for the clarification!
 
They have said (last Tech Forum) that the 211 DVR enabling is separate from the 722/622/612? EHD enabling fee.

Maybe enough furor will change their minds but they think these are completely different, as I viewed it.
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