NHL 2012 off-season notes & transactions

I know I was agreeing with Neutrons post above mine if you noticed it but rest of this season free as they should for what they put the fans through and if they don't have a season this year then a big discount for next years NHL Seasons Pass :)

Sure would be nice. We as the fans are owed something. :)

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NHL still not ready to ring in new year On the day the NHL was to celebrate its game with the widely watched Winter Classic, the league and the players’ union spent New Year’s Day behind closed doors in New York attempting to salvage what remains of the 2012-13 season.

Instead of Detroit hosting fellow “original six” member Toronto at Michigan Stadium in Ann Arbor, where conditions Tuesday would have been gorgeous for the estimated crowd of 120,000 fans (a temperature of 23 degrees and welcomed cloud cover), the sides still were trying to end the now five-month long lockout.

The NHL and the players’ union met in the afternoon to review the union’s counter-offer and then reconvened at 8 p.m. St. Louis time, when the league issued its own counter-proposal.

That meeting lasted only 30 minutes and although the sides did not indicate a new collective bargaining agreement was imminent, their ongoing back-and-forth cordial negotiations hinted toward the potential for a deal.

“We’re clearly not done,” NHL commissioner Gary Bettman told reporters. “(But) we anticipate being back together (today). The fact that we’re involved in a continuous process is something that I am glad to see, but we’re clearly not done yet. It’s up to the players’ association to come back to us now in response to what they’ve been given (Tuesday) evening.”

Following the NHL’s offer last week, Bettman said the league made more movement toward the union’s position in its counter offer, but held its ground in other areas.

It’s believed that the players, meanwhile, have accepted the league’s proposal of a 10-year collective-bargaining agreement. Whose turn it is to make the next move is unknown.

“There were certain things that the players’ association asked for that we agreed to, there were some things that we moved in their direction, and there were other things that we said no,” Bettman said. “That’s part of the process.

“Nobody is counting. We’re not keeping score, we’re trying to get an agreement done.”

The league and the union appear close on the split of hockey-related revenue, or “HRR,” and contracting rights. But a few hurdles remain, such as the proposed salary cap for the 2013-14 season, a cap on escrow, pensions and revenue-sharing. To help clarify their points, the sides met in small groups and spoke via conference call Tuesday about details of the respective counter-offers.

“They did make a comprehensive response to what we gave them (Monday),” said Don Fehr, the union’s executive director, who also confirmed the plan to meet with the NHL today. “We asked a couple of questions, and now what we have to do is go through the document, try to make some sense out of it, compare it and see what the appropriate thing is to do next.”

Interestingly, today is the deadline for the NHLPA to file a disclaimer of interest, which could lead to a vote to dissolve the union and allow it to become a trade association. The motive behind such a move would be to remove anti-trust exemptions afforded to the NHL, setting up potential lawsuits against the league.

It seems doubtful, however, with the current state of the negotiations that this type of action would be taken by the players. If today’s deadline passes without the union filing the disclaimer, another authorization vote could be held, allowing it to file at a later date.

Fehr did not address the possibility of filing today, while Bettman said “it’s not something we’re focused on.”

What the NHL and the union now seem to be focused on finally is playing hockey. There seems to be far less posturing and much more constructive negotiating in recent days, which shouldn’t come as a surprise. The date before the NHL likely would cancel the entire season is rapidly approaching. A deal must be reached by Jan. 11 for the league to get in a partial season.

“We’ve said we need to drop the puck by Jan. 19 if we’re going to play a 48-game season,” Bettman said. “We don’t think it makes sense to play a season any shorter than that.”

The NHL missed out on the Winter Classic but there are still plenty of snowy days ahead — now if the league and players could just agree to drop the puck and ring in the new season.

“It is better to be meeting than not,” Fehr said. “I am not saying anything more about it.”

The Associated Press contributed

information to this story.
 
they better not be discussing a 20-teams playoffs system! just discuss the CBA, for now leave the rules changes for next season, but one they need figure out now will The NHL complete in the 2014 Olympics i have feeling the NHL doesn't want to and the players do so, that might be a issue down the road
 
1 of trhe big hang ups is how to fund pensions but most of the labor things are completed but have some things lately :)
 
I suspect we will hear some good news within the next few days. Of course things could still blow up, but hopes are pretty high right now. :)

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How late can the season begin?

The NHL has announced publicly and informed the NHL Players Association that the season must begin by Jan. 19. That means a new collective bargaining agreement must be in place on or about Jan. 11, to allow for a minimum training camp.

How many games will be played?

NHL Commissioner Gary Bettman said more than one month ago that a 48-game season is the shortest season the league will play.

From The Detroit News: http://www.detroitnews.com/article/20130103/SPORTS0103/301030327#ixzz2Gv6wKM8c
 
Union responds to latest NHL offer in labor talks The Associated Press – 23 minutes ago http://sports.yahoo.com/news/union-...RhaWQDBHBzdGNhdANob21lBHB0A3NlY3Rpb25z;_ylv=3 NHL, NHLPA continue productive lockout talks ahead of their self-imposed deadlines http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nhl-p...AxNzQzBHBzdGNhdAN1ZmMEcHQDc3RvcnlwYWdl;_ylv=3



You have to love this quote out of the second story.

For the few of you still keeping score at home: The NHL gave the NHLPA a comprehensive offer late last week, and the union responded with a counteroffer on Monday. The NHL then countered that counteroffer with a counteroffer that countered the counter, which the NHLPA is reviewing on Tuesday night to see how they’ll counter that counter. Everyone got that?
 
The best news of all is that both sides are talking and there isn't much being leaked out. This normally means that there has been some good progress as neither side is trying to make the other look bad right now.
 
Let's hope the vote goes good :)

Lets hope that a deal is made prior to the ending of the vote. If the vote passes the 'disclaimer of interest' we are going to be in a court battle starting next week. This can also just be another bargaining chip on the players part as it was the last time.
 

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