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jgabriels

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I recently moved into a house with a dish 500, a directtv slimline, and a
third small directtv dish. I have located a primestar dish on a boarded
up property and am attempting to get in contact with the owner
to see if I can have it. I also have found (at least) one person willing to
give me a large mesh dish. In the mean time, I have purchased a
coolsat 6000 and a visionsat iv-200 and have a TON of questions.

As they should be already aimed correctly, I thought that I would start
with the three dishes I already have. I have determined that I should
be able to get NASA and ANGEL TV from my dish 500, but can I get anything
from either of my directTV dishes?

The slimline has 3 horns and 4 wires, the dish 500 2 horns and 2 wires and
the other directtv, 1 horn and 1 wire. I assume that there is a possibility
that one of the wires on the slimline is not connected. Is it always just one
wire per horn?

What is the purpose of multiple horns? Do you need one
horn per TV or do they actually pick up different satellites?

I hooked up the 4 wires from my slimline into the diseqc that came with the
coolsat and connected it to the coolsat.
I went into the settings and found where I needed to enable the diseqc.
The disqec I got from the visionsat shows diseqc 2.0 and the one I got with
the coolsat shows diseqc 1.2, unfortunately my coolsat 6000 only shows
1.o or 1.0/1.1. I decided to choose 1.0/1.1 and 2 new menu items show up
asking me how many are committed and uncommitted.
What does that mean? Committed gives me 1-4. uncommitted lets me go
all the way up to 16 for some reason. What is committed/uncommitted?
A search on the forum for 'committed' drew a blank.

I set committed to 3, went into blind scan and it asked me to select which
satellites to scan. I thought the purpose of the blind scan was to scan
for unknown satellites. Why do I have to choose the satellite? How do I
scan for an unknown satellite? As my dish is currently a fixed dish, it seems
weird that I need to specify a satellite at all.
Does the blindscan automatically scan all 4 diseqc ports? How do I
specify which diseqc to scan?

I selected ALL of the satellites and clicked on scan and let it run for a LONG
time and it said it found 120 tv and 84 radio stations but it never return
so I finally hit exit. Is it suppose to eventually exit or does it just continue
to loop? If it does exit, how long does it generally take?

After exiting, the blind scan, obviously most of the channels it found are
scrambled, is there an automated way of hiding all the scrambled channels
so that I can see if I found any unencrypted ones?

Oh, and one additional newbie question for now, why the southern sky,
I assume it is because of geosync orbit. Are there any satellites that are
not south and/or not geosync?
 
Yippe!!, I found some and managed to answer one of my questions.
If I click the OK button, it shows up all the discovered channels with
a '$' next to all the scrambled channels.
Now if I could just block all the scrambled ones.
Weirdly enough, even though my coolsat is connected to the directtv dish
all the visible channels seem to be dishnetwork infomercials.

I found a channel called 'TV 469 - 11719V' which weirdly enough says:

Your order is confirmed for WWE: No Way Out at 7:30 PM ET, Feb 15th on Channels 455 & 472

and another channel called 'TV 240 - 11778V' which is an advertisement
for allamericandirect/mydistantnetworks that says I might be able to add
local channels on channels 241-248.

How does the channels mentioned match up to the channels I am seeing or does that
second advertising not apply to FTA?
 
ok, i think i found NASA TV on 'TV 213 - 11719V NSS'

ftalist.com shows NASA TV on:

NASA TV -- EchoStar 7 12370-R 20000 4130 4131

Those numbers don't seem to match at all.

Are these numbers related? Can someone explain this to me?
 
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I recently moved into a house with a dish 500, a directtv slimline, and a
third small directtv dish. I have located a primestar dish on a boarded
up property and am attempting to get in contact with the owner
to see if I can have it. I also have found (at least) one person willing to
give me a large mesh dish.
sweet on the Primestar and the mesh dish. Those make great dishes for FTA setups

In the mean time, I have purchased a
coolsat 6000 and a visionsat iv-200 and have a TON of questions.
now the fun begins ;)

As they should be already aimed correctly, I thought that I would start
with the three dishes I already have. I have determined that I should
be able to get NASA and ANGEL TV from my dish 500, but can I get anything
from either of my directTV dishes?
the slimline probably not. The 2nd smaller dish I wonder where that aimed at. The D500 you should be able to get NASA & Angel One

The slimline has 3 horns and 4 wires, the dish 500 2 horns and 2 wires and
the other directtv, 1 horn and 1 wire. I assume that there is a possibility
that one of the wires on the slimline is not connected. Is it always just one
wire per horn?
no. There are switches built into the slimline and probably the D500 so you can have only one cable. The D* dish probably had 4 receivers set up.

What is the purpose of multiple horns? Do you need one
horn per TV or do they actually pick up different satellites?
different sats. The one LNB actually has 3 built in. 99/101/103 and the other 2 are for 110 & 119. The Dish dish is at 110/119

I hooked up the 4 wires from my slimline into the diseqc that came with the
coolsat and connected it to the coolsat.
dont even both with the Slimline. Direct has their own setup that the Coolsat or Visionsat cant pick up (DSS. We use DVB)

I went into the settings and found where I needed to enable the diseqc.
The disqec I got from the visionsat shows diseqc 2.0 and the one I got with
the coolsat shows diseqc 1.2, unfortunately my coolsat 6000 only shows
1.o or 1.0/1.1. I decided to choose 1.0/1.1 and 2 new menu items show up
asking me how many are committed and uncommitted.
What does that mean? Committed gives me 1-4. uncommitted lets me go
all the way up to 16 for some reason. What is committed/uncommitted?
A search on the forum for 'committed' drew a blank.
commited switches are most common. These are the 2x1 & 4x1 that are out there. Uncommitted is for an 8x1 diseqc switch. Uncommitted is very rare and allows you to hook up numerous switches to have up to 64 or more LNB's on a setup

I set committed to 3, went into blind scan and it asked me to select which
satellites to scan. I thought the purpose of the blind scan was to scan
for unknown satellites.
it is. But normally you select the specific satellite for the dish. But since you're tinkering to see what you get you can pick any satellite.
How do I scan for an unknown satellite? As my dish is currently a fixed dish, it seems
weird that I need to specify a satellite at all.
see above. But for fun just select one. Normally Echostar 7 would work for the trial

Does the blindscan automatically scan all 4 diseqc ports? How do I
specify which diseqc to scan?
you have to set it up in the dish settings (back up to the committed/uncommitted part). You would select "committed" or (Diseqc 1.0) and select the port for the dish you want.

I selected ALL of the satellites and clicked on scan and let it run for a LONG
time and it said it found 120 tv and 84 radio stations but it never return
so I finally hit exit. Is it suppose to eventually exit or does it just continue
to loop? If it does exit, how long does it generally take?
depends on the satellite. Normally its less than 5 minutes per satellite.

After exiting, the blind scan, obviously most of the channels it found are
scrambled, is there an automated way of hiding all the scrambled channels
so that I can see if I found any unencrypted ones?
select "free" in the blind scan setup (options are ALL, TV or FREE)

Oh, and one additional newbie question for now, why the southern sky,
I assume it is because of geosync orbit. Are there any satellites that are
not south and/or not geosync?
the satellites (the clarke belt) is across the equator so we're north of there. If we were souoth of the equator then all the sats are north of us :)
 
ok, i think i found NASA TV on 'TV 213 - 11719V NSS'

ftalist.com shows NASA TV on:

NASA TV -- EchoStar 7 12370-R 20000 4130 4131

Those numbers don't seem to match at all.

Are these numbers related? Can someone explain this to me?

whatever satellite you are using in the dish setup change the LNB frequency to 11250 instead of 10750...in the 6000 it shoujld be the 4th one down (below LNB Type which is "SINGLE")

or just scroll to find "Echostar 7" which is at 119 and should be set to go.

But I would try the Dish dish. Easier to work with :)
 
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