The new ALL mpeg 4 service was supposed to be in service by spring of next year at the latest. This was before the delays at the launch sites for the new sats that were supposed to launch by December of this year. IT is coming because DISH will depend on it, to be able to have all the hd channels , upto 200 national , sd, locals in both sd and upto 100 hd local dmas, and internationals all on one 18 " sat dish. This will be in order to compete with all the Directv hd channels that they were SUPPOSED to launch yesterday.