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[b4pjoe]

Geolocating is flawed. My ISP is ATT and they currently show me as located in Las Vegas. So do I get Raiders games when I should be shown Chiefs?

Geolocating via IP address is the flawed part. Using location services works fine but location services have to available and enabled on each device being used for it to work.

 

[meStevo]

It's not perfect but it's plenty fine for this purpose. Numerous services already rely on it, with steps in place to mitigate abuse like limiting how frequently you can change or update your home/playback location. For the vast majority it's completely invisible and would be a non-issue just as it is for a number of services already.

 

[comfortably_numb]

It's not perfect but it's plenty fine for this purpose.

Guess I'll have to become a Raiders fan then?

 

[savarese04]

Guess I'll have to become a Raiders fan then?

HAH hopefully not, but what I think everyone is saying (and I agree) is that geolocating by IP is inherently flawed, but there are other methods of geolocating that most apps actually use that work fine.

For example, I am in the SF Bay Area, on my desktop computer connected to Xfinity broadband, my IP geolocator generally puts me 30-40 miles away, but when I load Google Maps on same computer, it puts me within a mile of my house.

I imagine the same would hold true for you, provided you ensure [precise] location sharing is turned on for the app in question.

 

[comfortably_numb]

I imagine the same would hold true for you, provided you ensure [precise] location sharing is turned on for the app in question.

It doesn't work for streamers like my Rokus. They determine my location by my IP address, which, incidentally has me currently located in Fair Oaks, CA. My point is that anybody using a cellular home internet ISP is going to have this issue, unless streamers start adding GPS or something.

 

[b4pjoe]

It doesn't work for streamers like my Rokus. They determine my location by my IP address, which, incidentally has me currently located in Fair Oaks, CA. My point is that anybody using a cellular home internet ISP is going to have this issue, unless streamers start adding GPS or something.

The Apple TV has Location Services that uses GPS instead of the IP address.

 

[meStevo]

YTTV has me use my phone to determine my location when it needs to check.

Manage your home area or current location for YouTube TV - Computer - YouTube TV Help

When you sign up for YouTube TV, we’ll ask you to share your home zip code. We may also ask you to verify your area location via your device location permissions. This requirement is to make sure you get the right networks in your location.

support.google.com

Like I said, services that are sensitive to location have already been dealing with these challenges and it won't be an issue. No wheel re-inventing required.

 

[comfortably_numb]

services that are sensitive to location have already been dealing with these challenges and it won't be an issue

Or they don't care.

PBS shows me the livestream of the location of my IP on Roku. Same thing with live CBS on Paramount+

All I have to do is reboot my router and *boom* new networks to watch!

The Roku even adopts the time zone of my ISP.

 

[ncted]

The Apple TV has Location Services that uses GPS instead of the IP address.

Can you confirm that? I cannot find any supporting documentation, and it was my understanding that it used Wi-Fi information to determine location. Not sure how GPS is going to work without a clear view of the sky.

In any case, I've had a lot of apps struggle to determine my location. Both Paramount+ and Peacock have given me Wichita locals at times since I switched to Google Fiber. That is the DMA closest to the geographical center of the continental US which is what is used by default when an application cannot find your IP address in the database.

 

[comfortably_numb]

PBS is currently serving up KVIE from Sacramento on my Roku.

 

[comfortably_numb]

Fox is serving up KTVU from San Francisco.

 

[b4pjoe]

I have never had my Apple TV to give me the wrong locals.

 

[dishdude]

Android devices can run a VPN, I have a $15 onn streaming stick I travel with, allows me to use US apps all over the world. Works great! Sometimes takes me a couple minutes to get past the hotel's splash page for Wi-Fi and to get the TV to an HDMI input, but I've always managed to get it going.

 

[ncted]

I have never had my Apple TV to give me the wrong locals.

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Interesting. I have to assume it gets it from other devices in the vicinity that are GPS capable. It doesn't look like GPS is a required device capability for tvOS apps, but location services is required:

Required Device Capabilities - Support - Apple Developer

developer.apple.com

 

[b4pjoe]

Interesting. I have to assume it gets it from other devices in the vicinity that are GPS capable. It doesn't look like GPS is a required device capability for tvOS apps, but location services is required:

Required Device Capabilities - Support - Apple Developer

developer.apple.com

Not sure how it works but Google says...