Nebraska bolting for Big Ten, Colorado for Pac-10
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You don't REALLY think they are going to play all 9 other teams in conference, now do you ?
Then again, it could be done with a large enough number of games to play.
It can be and is done. The PAC-10 plays everybody in the conference. The Big-X used to until they added Penn St., didn't they?
I don't think so.
The Big 10 always had 2-3 early non conference games as far as I can remember.
NCAA rules allow a Conference Championship game if a Conference has a minimum of 12 teams.
The rule has been around for a while, but was mostly intended for the lower divisions. The SEC saw that there was nothing to restrict Div 1A from using the rule, so they expanded to 12 teams and took advantage of it.
Back when the ACC was expanding, they petitioned the NCAA to revise the rule to set a minimum of 10 teams. The NCAA committee said no, so the minimum remains at 12 teams.
I doubt that will happen. OU/Texas is a big annual money maker for both teams, and the city of Dallas. Nobody wants to give that up, and they would have to if the schools were in different divisions.
This whole fiasco of the last two weeks has really set my head spinning. I hate losing Nebraska, but I was anticipating a recurring rivalry with USC/Cal/Oregon. "Whoops, not so fast, my friend."
I don't think this new 10 team conference has a long term future. Missouri will bolt at the first opportunity that comes up, and then what?
Still doesn't answer the question of WHY ...
Why does the NCAA feel that under 12 teams would be a problem.
Anyone can have a CCG if they wanted to, I see no reason why they couldn't.
What difference would it make ?
I don't think so. Also the SEC never did a complete round robin when they were 10.
The Pac 10 only did so, after the NCAA permanently expanded the season to 12 (from 11) games. That allowed them to keep 3 OOC games when having everyone play everyone.
Okay, we'll let them have the Big-12 name, and we can be "Texas and the Other Guys."OK so let me see if I got this straight. Nebraska just left the Big 12 for the Big Ten, which gives the Big Ten 12 teams. They left the Big 12, and now the Big 12 has 10 teams. I'm confused.
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But they still played the same number of games.
Other conferences just find it WAY to tough to play 12 games in 12 weeks is all.
The Big 10 has since decided to schedule Off weeks as well, but I think it's only 1 week.
And, so, you folks will not have to call Dandy Don from his retirement in New Mexico to sing -----"It's time to call it a day." In the end it was all about money and not about money at all. Colorado didn't fit in the Big12 time zone or geographic fit even though they had been a member of the Big8/12 since the conference's inception. The Big12 should be called the Conference of the plains. Colorado doesn't field baseball or wrestling teams and how well do you think U of Texas does in Skiing. Their move was the most bonehead, because the Pac10 isn't any better fit than the Big12. If they moved, the Mountain West would have been their best fit in every way. Nebraska has had a rock in their shoe since the day the Big 12 was formed. They undervalued the strength of the original 8 in Football, Basketball, Wrestling, Golf, Baseball and other sports. They overvalued Texas perceived strength (maybe it was real) but power within conferences shifts. The winners became those who stayed and the fans and supporters of the Big 12. I live in Kansas, grew up in Colorado and went to the U of Colorado, but am still a fan of the Big 12 and won't spend much of my time watching PAC10 1/2 sports.
Yep. Part of the Whorns deal with Dan Beebe is that they get to start their own television network. They didn't like that the Pac 10 was going to start a conference network in 2012. I can understand Beebe being desperate to save the conference and giving in to that condition. I can't understand A&M, OU, OSU, and Tech being willing to stay put under such circumstances. Now we can't have a Big 12 network. We are all gutless cowards, and the Whorns have officially hung the b*tch label on us for the country to see. I am so pissed off.
Oh, and Beebe has promised all of us to double our television revenue. How is that going to happen with the loss of a conference title game? Down the line, we are going to regret this! :rant:
UT, A&M staying in Big 12
I wonder how long it will be before they start playing a 16-game college football schedule? I used to think that the purpose of attending college was to earn an education...foolish me.
Why does it matter WHY??
The NCAA has a lot of rules and does lot of things that don't make sense. Stupid BCS instead of a real Div. I championship series is one.
They probably felt they needed to define a minimum number of teams, that's all...
Really?
You advocate that a Conference play a Championship game without sanction of the NCAA. Never going to happen. Head in sand stuff there.
What's next the winner of Ohio State and Michigan is declared the Big Ten Representative for the Rose Bowl by fiat of the OSU and Uof M Athletic departments. No matter the Big Ten Conference nor NCAA's take on this.
On a side note I wish the BCS PTB would make a hard fast rule for Conferences seeking Auto Invites to the BCS.
That would be 9 Conference Games, 1 Non Conference Game against another BCS Conference School. 2 Games left to the schools discretion.
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I cannot tell you the reason WHY, but I can tell you just as other have that this rule has been in place for a very long time. It was the reason the SEC expanded to 12 teams back in 1991. It was the reason the Big12 existed after the demise of the Big8. It was the reason the ACC invited Boston College, Syracuse and Miami in 2003. As matter of fact, because the ACC couldn't get the votes to add Syracuse because Virginia had to vote to include VA Tech, the first year the expansion ACC only had 11 teams and could not hold a CCG. Just like the Big10 (with eleven members) and the Pac-10, there is no CCG for conferences with less that 12 teams.Jimbo said:
The conferences cannot just decide to have a CCG. It needs the NCAA's approval. Without sanction, that league would then be out of the NCAA's.
One team in the Big10 gets to have its own state-wide network. Yes, there will be regret. Beebe managed to hold it together, now he must find two more patsi.. I mean universities to keep a CCG in play, and they'd better be in significant markets in order to get a large increase in TV money.Will94 said:
Face it. Held together, the current Big12 is more doomed than the one from a month ago. I don't care how good some think the conference's football will be this year. I know how it would be a few years from now, if the conference is still around.
The reality becomes that both the Big10 and the Pac10 will have a CCG in 2012 (provided another member is added in the Pac10), while the Big12 will not unless they add members.
Aggieland is in full meltdown. At least I am not the only one so pissed off this morning. The link below is exhibit one.
TexAgs.com - A&M Football
TexAgs.com - A&M Football
