NBR for 50x series???

[cbstv]

Just checking around and haven't heard anything recently about NBR for the 50x series boxes...any upcoming software versions that include ( as previously promised ) NBR functions???

 

[NightRyder]

It's been delayed. New date is Late Summer or early Fall, but I won't be surprised if it never appears.


NightRyder

 

[Scott Greczkowski]

Charlie said on the January Charlie Chat the 50x series would get NBR by February 14th.

On the Tech Chat which aired on February 21'st they said they hope to have NBR recording working on the 50X series by late fall.

Just more proof that Charlie has no idea whats going on at his company and really does not care whats happening at his company.

 

[cbstv]

Options:
Get a 522, just for the NBR, and use only one tuner.
-or-
Get a TiVo box to work (somehow) with my E* stuff
-or-
Throw all my stuff out the window
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I'm getting antsy. Any ideas?

 

[NightRyder]

While I personally have no interest in NBR being added to the 50x series (my 501 and 508 are stable and I want them to stay that way), the 522, up coming 625 and stand alone Tivo are options for someone who must have NBR.


NightRyder

 

[cbstv]

stand alone tivo???

 

[NightRyder]

stand alone tivo???

DirecTv also has a Tivo based PVR but it only works with their service. A stand alone Tivo has a built in MPEG encoder and can be used with OTA, cable, Dish etc.


NightRyder

 

[cbstv]

hmmmm...same guide?

 

[NightRyder]

hmmmm...same guide?

Never owned either so I really can't say. I know they both have similar features like Season Pass etc. There are members here who use a Tivo with Dish. You can post questions in the Dish Network PVR/DVR forum and I'm sure one of them can provide answers.

http://www.satelliteguys.us/forumdisplay.php?f=19

NightRyder

 

[SummitAdvantageRetailer]

Tivo without DirecTV and by itself has a $12.99 monthly charge. That's much higher than the $4.99 fee when used on DirecTV accounts.

 

[cbstv]

But that fee is capped via the one time only lifetime fee. And that at least gives you NBR, etc.
I'm starting to think that cable tv requires much less brain-power.
If the PQ on D* wasn't so bad, I'd be there yesterday.

 

[mikew]

hmmmm...same guide?

A stand-alone Tivo would use the Tivo guide. It is a rather simple process to hook up a SA Tivo to a Dish box. The big difference is picture/audio quality and record capacity. A Dish PVR records the stream in digital format. You get the same picture and audio (including Dolby Digital) on your recordings. A standalone Tivo converts the digital signal to analog. It removes the Dolby Digital ability and, depending on your settings, either greatly reduces record time or picture quality.

It would be better if Dish just gave its customers what it promised

 

[video62]

TiVo/DirecTiVo questions? See the TiVo/DirecTiVo forums at http://www.tivocommunity.com

Fee recap: Standalone TiVo $12.95/mo. for first box, $6.95/mo. for additonal boxes. The standalones only have 1 tuner, you must choose record quality. Guide info via phone line or (if you add a 3rd party card) via internet. Current software has cool features that use networked boxes such as Home Media Option (view pics or play MP3s from your PC), MRV (multi-room viewing), TTG (Tivo-To-Go: copy shows to your PC or laptop).

DirecTiVos are dual tuner (you need two cable runs from the dish or multiswitch). "DVR Fee" for DirecTiVos is $4.99/month for your entire account, not per DVR. The standard "additional receiver fee" still applies... you would pay that if it were a DirecTiVo or a just a vanilla receiver.

There is no DirectTiVo that is equal to a 522 from the standpoint of driving two separate TVs, one TV per tuner - this is unique to Dish. If you want separate viewing control on two TVs then you'd better count on getting two DirecTiVos.

DirecTiVos record compressed satellite data, just like Dish DVR. Guide download via satellite. Default software doesn't have all the neato networked HMO, MRV, TTG features of the standalone unless you hack the box and put on a version of the standalone Tivo software on it; then you can have the HMO and MRV stuff.

TiVo/DirecTiVo boxes are very 'hackable'; hard drive upgrades being the easiest and the skill to acomplish this is pretty much basic PC hardware skills and the ability to follow (the very good) instructions.

All sorts of other cute stuff can be done once you get the USB ports enabled, but this requires some Linux skills and isn't for the technically faint-of-heart.