I wonder what the NBA will do to win back fans after this fiasco going on right now. At least the NHL realized their mistake & did everything they could to win the fans back,& it seemed to have worked.
dangue said:This season looks doomed. I just can't see the players agreeing to these terms...
It's time to talk to my season ticket representative and see about getting a refund. I envision that will be like pulling teeth...
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royrdsjr said:I wonder what the NBA will do to win back fans after this fiasco going on right now. At least the NHL realized their mistake & did everything they could to win the fans back,& it seemed to have worked.
I wonder what the NBA will do to win back fans after this fiasco going on right now. At least the NHL realized their mistake & did everything they could to win the fans back,& it seemed to have worked.
Whereas baseball put on its blinders durring the steroids-aided home run race between Sosa and Maguire. But I don't remember the NFL doing anything.
It will be wait and see. I have a hunch that basketball TV ratings, which have been poor, and stadium attendance, which has been pretty good, will return to pre-strike levels whenever the strike ends.
The owners are offering a 50-50 split of revenue, but the possible elimination of two teams would cause the BRI to be adjusted with a smaller percentage for the players, sources said. The NBA also wants to be able to contract teams without consulting the union.
In a coordinated Twitter push on Sunday, Stern and deputy commissioner Adam Silver were said to be answering questions for fans. In an answer to a question about team contraction, the league officials responded that it “had been discussed,” and that it was not a “complete solution.”
Also, the NBA wants to conduct out-of-season drug testing of players, including testing for some drugs and performance-enhancing substances that could only be done through blood samples. Currently, the NBA does random in-season testing of urine samples for such drugs as marijuana and cocaine.
If the players were to vote to accept the terms of the owners’ current proposal, the litany of B-list issues – including contraction, drug testing, Developmental League assignments and draft age eligibility – would still have to be agreed upon.
There’s a growing belief that Stern doesn’t have the ownership support to pass the very proposal he’s been pushing all weekend, and that owners would ultimately kill this deal with the list of non-negotiable B-list issues the players would oppose. This way, the league can say it worked hard to cut a fairer deal with players, but in the end, the owners will get the draconian ‘reset’ proposal that many of them have wanted all along.
“A lot of teams – more all the time – don’t like the deal on the table,” one high-ranking league official said.
... I had stated in previous post that heavy rumor are that the players have more or less accepted the fact that they will not get better than 50-50 and that the main issues that need to be squared away are the so called "system issues". Here is some more comfirmation that indeed it LOOKS like the case:
'B-list' issues could cause trouble in NBA talks - NBA - Yahoo! Sports
Thanks Yahoo...
Sandra
LMAO!!! Just as I expected....
One of the new wrinkles the committee has found difficult to accept, sources told Bucher, is an unlimited escrow system.
The escrow system would ensure that owners would be reimbursed for however much they exceed the negotiated amount of basketball-related income allowed to be spent on player salaries.
In the current seven-page proposal, a copy of which was obtained by ESPN The Magazine, the players have a choice of selecting a 50-50 split of BRI or a 49-51 band.
If teams spend more than the allotted percentage, they not only retain the 10 percent of each salary held in escrow, but if that 10 percent doesn't cover the excess then the additional funds can be deducted from a one percent of BRI dedicated to "post-career player annuity and player benefits."
If the excess still hasn't been satisfied, future benefits and escrow funds can be utilized to cover it. In essence, it assures the owners that no matter how much they spend in any one season, they will not have to pay more than the stated percentage.
Stern has blamed agents for misinformation about the proposal that has spread since Thursday. So players were eager to get in the room with Hunter and union president Derek Fisher and get the full details themselves. Chris Duhon, Orlando's player rep, wrote on his Twitter feed that the Magic would accept the deal.
"The main thing is not going in with any preconceived notions," Minnesota Timberwolves rep Anthony Tolliver said. "We need to understand the ins and outs of the deal. It's just like last week, where we didn't understand the full extent of the deal until we got in the room face-to-face and talked it through."
Appears that the players rejected the offer, will decertify and file an anti-trust lawsuit against the owners.
Things just went from bad to nuclear!!!
Appears that the players rejected the offer, will decertify and file an anti-trust lawsuit against the owners.
Things just went from bad to nuclear!!!
It wasn't going to work for the NFLPA so it won't be good for them either.
Good news
Hopefully the NBAPA will continue with their staggering arrogance and take this first step toward relegating The "Association" to irrelevance for the next 3-5 years.
But it sure as hell helped speed up the negociation process though.... IF the players wanted to be affective, she SHOULD have disbanded early...like as soon as they were locked out.
And maybe it will also take that little financial crutch those professional leagues so much... that anti-exemption golden goose.