To the side, Jimmie Johnson has retired. He stepped away from NASCAR a couple years ago to give real auto racing a try, and struggled with the competition. He had a pair of strong performances at the shredding tires oval stops in Newton, IA. He has officially stepped away from that now to let someone else generally finish in last place next year in Indycar.
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I am really disappointed with NASCAR. They are in my opinion destroying racing. Staged racing is not racing, Single Lugnuts is taking away a skill from the pit crew, the cars have so much control over design and mechanics there is no room for automakers to try new things. Glorifying a driver purely on his race is racist! I just hate what it has become.
All you said +. No room for strategy especially on road courses thanks to stage breaks, wider tires =too much speed in the corners and No passing, lousy race officiating, only one source for parts and lousy parts. Nascar is run by people too much dependent on "The Beast". There is no stock in national association of stock car auto racing.
That was the Start of why I eventually Quit watching.
Once Stage racing started, I started to loose interest .... and its gotten worse since then.
I watched "Little Jimmy" now Jimmy Johnson start in go cart and then midgets at 10 yrs old at Barrona and Cajon Speedways here in San Diego. So many have quit/retired/moved on no ones left and should have been my clue a few years ago what NASCAR had planned!
I watched from the early '90's till about 4-5 years ago weekly ....
Once the regulars started to retire, it started to get changed as attendance was going down as well.
Then they started doing gimmicky things and I decided to watch when I had nothing else going on.
Once the regulars started to retire, it started to get changed as attendance was going down as well.
Then they started doing gimmicky things and I decided to watch when I had nothing else going on.
I miss our local track. I had family back in Kansas and Arkansans. Loved those small tracks. Cheap fun. Drivers driving their hearts out! And dont forget the train/boat/bus races
NASCAR sucked before staged racing. This whole "staged racing" complaint is ridiculous as NASCAR didn't implement it out of the blue. NASCAR was sinking. I think Jimmie Johnson is partly responsible for that, winning so often. The other issue is many of the tracks are too fast to be safe. So the cars are restricted, which kills the racing in NASCAR. Indycar addresses this with tires and doing a lot more road/street courses, and not racing at places where the engines need restrictions on them.
And this ignores the whole issue of racing in ovals for 400 to 500 miles, week after week, kind of getting boring.
Yeah, some seem to have a problem with that subject, but this isn't the thread for that.
Gordon and Earnhardt won a lot More often than Johnson did, but Johnson put together an incredible string of seasons as well.
So Talladega managed to finish without a massive pileup. Nice change of pace. Can someone explain why it took 4 laps to deal with a stalled car in the pits? Or why was it necessary to flag it at all? Couldn't they just close the pits?
NASCAR’s decline had nothing to do with Johnson or whoever. It had to do with the idiot changes to the rules, such as the chase, not racing back to the caution, spotter dependence, road courses, segments, cars with NO relationship to stock, etc.
Chief among these, is the idiotic chase. Who WON THE RACE should be the most important thing every week. Not whether or not some one will be in some idiot playoffs months later, the results of which will be random and in no way reflective of who had the best year.
Chief among these, is the idiotic chase. Who WON THE RACE should be the most important thing every week. Not whether or not some one will be in some idiot playoffs months later, the results of which will be random and in no way reflective of who had the best year.
Jimmie Johnson returns to NASCAR, takes part ownership of Petty GMS and will run select races in 2023 starting with Daytona.
View: https://twitter.com/jimmiejohnson/status/1588568666836459520?s=61&t=nODGk9nkncaX4-ABWCf5yQ
View: https://twitter.com/jimmiejohnson/status/1588568666836459520?s=61&t=nODGk9nkncaX4-ABWCf5yQ
With people pondering the idea of realigning how NASCAR determines a champion, I provide an alternative. It involves tracking the finishing position of all the drivers in each race. It is a really complicated system but, giving points based on how one finished and tracking that through the year (and awarding the championship to the guy who did the best for the season) seems doable with modern 21st century technology.
5 points if you finish, ten points if crashed out by Ross Chastain (Chastain gets -5 points for all cars he crashed out), and then points for the top 9. 30-22-15-10-8-6-4-2-1 (plus that bonus 5). Finished 10th? Boo hoo! Here, have a ribbon for driving in circles for x hundred miles. Currently, you get 30 points for 7th. That is 75% of the winner's haul. That hardly seems fair, other than the issue of two wide racing. Of which, here is the next solution, no more two wide racing restarts. It is stupid. Yellow means yellow, you stay where you are on the track. Of course, this would mean less chance of losing a race you deserve to win because people keep spinning out and crashing on restarts because they think they can drive without obeying the laws of physics... so that'd probably kill that idea. But it'd end the race, and it'd be fair instead of giving other people a bonus round to make up for not having been in first because of car and driver performance.
Oh, and give up on splitting the race up. People barely remember who won races these days, forget the 1st segment. No one is watching NASCAR because it was split up into three segments! If people think cars driving around an oval for 400 miles is boring, it didn't make a difference if you split it into 3 133.33333333333 mile segments! In fact, you just made the race take LONGER by slowing it down! Maybe consider shortening the race overall. A pair of 300s on Saturday and Sunday perhaps.
Best possible suggestion would be to make the cars smaller, open up the cockpit, add a front wing, and a rear spoiler, and race on courses that turn left and right.
5 points if you finish, ten points if crashed out by Ross Chastain (Chastain gets -5 points for all cars he crashed out), and then points for the top 9. 30-22-15-10-8-6-4-2-1 (plus that bonus 5). Finished 10th? Boo hoo! Here, have a ribbon for driving in circles for x hundred miles. Currently, you get 30 points for 7th. That is 75% of the winner's haul. That hardly seems fair, other than the issue of two wide racing. Of which, here is the next solution, no more two wide racing restarts. It is stupid. Yellow means yellow, you stay where you are on the track. Of course, this would mean less chance of losing a race you deserve to win because people keep spinning out and crashing on restarts because they think they can drive without obeying the laws of physics... so that'd probably kill that idea. But it'd end the race, and it'd be fair instead of giving other people a bonus round to make up for not having been in first because of car and driver performance.
Oh, and give up on splitting the race up. People barely remember who won races these days, forget the 1st segment. No one is watching NASCAR because it was split up into three segments! If people think cars driving around an oval for 400 miles is boring, it didn't make a difference if you split it into 3 133.33333333333 mile segments! In fact, you just made the race take LONGER by slowing it down! Maybe consider shortening the race overall. A pair of 300s on Saturday and Sunday perhaps.
Best possible suggestion would be to make the cars smaller, open up the cockpit, add a front wing, and a rear spoiler, and race on courses that turn left and right.
I see NASCAR on a slow death. Its like Disney all bad changes are taking them in the wrong direction.
Is Formula 1 more popular at this point in the US?
No. NASCAR pulls in something between a 1.5 and a 2.5 every week, leaving out the Daytona 500 which can pull in about a 4.5. Remember this is in "sports prime time", either actual prime time on a Saturday night or on Sunday afternoon.
F1 pulls in between 0.6 and 1.1. Remember that much of this is on Sunday mornings, against preachers, news talking heads, and infomercials.
While NASCAR is in a major decline, and one from which it may not survive (NASCAR has to make pretty much all its money in the USA, F1 is a European sport and what they make in the USA is really gravy) it is still way ahead of F1 in this country.
F1 has ebbed and flowed in the USA for as long as I can remember. It is currently about as good as it ever has been, but this is still niche sport level. Eventually the management does something to screw it up and it recedes.
