MWC comes up with a valid 8 team college football playoff system...

[cybok0]

I think a playoff system would be better than what we have now. Just because Utah doesn't play for a BCS conference, they had no chance a a championship.

Memphis is in a smaller conference in BB, they will have every opportunity to win a championship.

 

[Paul Wozniak]

Utah may have been the best team in football last season for all I know. Would have been nice to know for sure. Maybe if all these kids didn't have to go to school....

 

[anders5189]

Ask yourself this. If a team did make the playoffs and then they won and advanced to the NC do you think there's a coach out there that would suddenly say "Hold on now. Our boys have missed a lot of class time. I don't know if we can play another game."

 

[Paul Wozniak]

Ask yourself this. If a team did make the playoffs and then they won and advanced to the NC do you think there's a coach out there that would suddenly say "Hold on now. Our boys have missed a lot of class time. I don't know if we can play another game."

Not even at Harvard.

 

[Paul Wozniak]

Compare graduation rates between football players and basketball players...football player miss less time than basketball players...they graduate at a higher rate. I have atleast one link that show the graudate rates and I am trying to find the story I read that states that time away has hurt basketball players because of the times way from classess during NCAA tournament.

Rivals.com College Football - Graduation Success Rates

What is your point in all of this anyhow? You want a playoff, or you don't want a playoff? I assumed you advocate a playoff system, since you started this, then you come back and now you want to tell us how this is bad for academics, so we shouldn't do this?

You are the new "king" of circle logic.

The king is dead, long live the king.

 

[cybok0]

Utah may have been the best team in football last season for all I know. Would have been nice to know for sure. Maybe if all these kids didn't have to go to school....

Ask yourself this. If a team did make the playoffs and then they won and advanced to the NC do you think there's a coach out there that would suddenly say "Hold on now. Our boys have missed a lot of class time. I don't know if we can play another game."

Every team in the top 10 deserves a chance at the championship.

 

[salsadancer7]

What is your point in all of this anyhow? You want a playoff, or you don't want a playoff? I assumed you advocate a playoff system, since you started this, then you come back and now you want to tell us how this is bad for academics, so we shouldn't do this?

You are the new "king" of circle logic.

The king is dead, long live the king.

I DO want a playoffs...but 16 teams would take WAY too long if you are ALSO going to do bowls ON TOP of this. IF you do it in a way where the bowls games ARE used AS THE PLAYOFFS....fine.

What is bad is IF you try to use the bowls games SEPERATE from a playoff system, they you have the whole month of bowls and then a whole month of playoffs....

 

[Paul Wozniak]

I DO want a playoffs...but 16 teams would take WAY too long if you are ALSO going to do bowls ON TOP of this. IF you do it in a way where the bowls games ARE used AS THE PLAYOFFS....fine.

What is bad is IF you try to use the bowls games SEPERATE from a playoff system, they you have the whole month of bowls and then a whole month of playoffs....

You are aware that all of this can happen at the same time, like it does now? It's not like MICHIGAN or the "U", have to play in a bowl game and then a national championship series. It's one or the other. Besides, it seems to me the system you posted descibes just that. Or did I read something wrong?

 

[salsadancer7]

You are aware that all of this can happen at the same time, like it does now? It's not like MICHIGAN or the "U", have to play in a bowl game and then a national championship series. It's one or the other. Besides, it seems to me the system you posted descibes just that. Or did read something wrong?

It looks that way...

 

[Paul Wozniak]

Ok, so screw the academics, and lets get on with the playoff idea.

 

[anders5189]

Why do people always assume that bowls and playoffs are an either or choice? I have no problem with the bowl games. I just want a playoff for the teams at the top that deserve a chance to EARN a NC. You could have playoffs and bowls throughout Dec and early Jan. No conflict. Basketball manages to have both the NCAA Tournament and the NIT during March so the season doesn't drag on into June like the NBA. It's like listening to people argue about how to screw in a lightbulb when these playoff conversations start. It's not that complicated. Every other sport plus the lower levels of football manage it fine.

 

[Paul Wozniak]

If we were in charge of the NCAA, this would have been a done deal by now. There really isn't any argument against doing this that holds any water. The real culprit here are the people controlling the money. Everybody wants the biggest piece of the pie.

 

[salsadancer7]

Why do people always assume that bowls and playoffs are an either or choice? I have no problem with the bowl games. I just want a playoff for the teams at the top that deserve a chance to EARN a NC. You could have playoffs and bowls throughout Dec and early Jan. No conflict. Basketball manages to have both the NCAA Tournament and the NIT during March so the season doesn't drag on into June like the NBA. It's like listening to people argue about how to screw in a lightbulb when these playoff conversations start. It's not that complicated. Every other sport plus the lower levels of football manage it fine.

No one is argue the "want" or the "need". It's more of the "how"... The ONLY way to seperate the two on it's own is to only include 8 teams max. IF you have a seperate playoff system with 16 teams AFTER the bowls. they could be playing into February. I mean basketball if different where you can play within 24 to 48 hours.

 

[Paul Wozniak]

Why? This could be done in four rds., 4 weeks. Who cares when they play all those other silly bowls?
The other bowls have no bearing on a national championship. Too much time? One week more than an 8 team playoff. I'll settle for an 8 team deal for now. Still better than the BSC. (Bullsh!t Championship).

 

[cosmo_kramer]

No one is argue the "want" or the "need". It's more of the "how"... The ONLY way to seperate the two on it's own is to only include 8 teams max. IF you have a seperate playoff system with 16 teams AFTER the bowls. they could be playing into February. I mean basketball if different where you can play within 24 to 48 hours.

This link is one that I posted in a similar thread earlier this year. It advocated a 16 team playoff system, and includes this provision for those that are concerned with academics and the length of the season:

The schedule. While Division I-AA plays all four rounds in four weeks and stages the title game before Christmas, Division I-A might be better served playing the first one or two rounds in December, breaking for final exams and staging the semifinals just after Christmas and the title game in early January.

The perfect plan - College Football - Rivals.com

 

[SamCdbs]

Playoffs will destroy not only the bowl system, but the greatest regular season in the world.

Just so the northeast, where college football is NBD, can have a playoff to watch for a couple of weeks. No thank you.

 

[Paul Wozniak]

This link is one that I posted in a similar thread earlier this year. It advocated a 16 team playoff system, and includes this provision for those that are concerned with academics and the length of the season:



The perfect plan - College Football - Rivals.com

That is the article I posted last season. Thanks for finding that.

 

[anders5189]

Playoffs will destroy not only the bowl system, but the greatest regular season in the world.

Just so the northeast, where college football is NBD, can have a playoff to watch for a couple of weeks. No thank you.

No it won't. Keep all the bowl games for mediocre teams. No big deal. And how would a playoff undermine the regular season? Rivalries will always be huge in college football and it would be extremely difficult to qualify for any playoff format thus any regular season game that impacted the playoff hunt would be huge.

 

[Paul Wozniak]

No it won't. Keep all the bowl games for mediocre teams. No big deal. And how would a playoff undermine the regular season? Rivalries will always be huge in college football and it would be extremely difficult to qualify for any playoff format thus any regular season game that impacted the playoff hunt would be huge.

I can't see this either. If anything it would intensify the regular season. One look at basketball verifies this, and those teams are fighting for one of 65 spots.

 

[SamCdbs]

Right.

In college football, every game already is a playoff game. If LSU beats Florida, Florida is probably out. V-V and LSU is probably out. With playoffs, see you in late December for the rematch.