MLB forms economic group as regional TV in peril

[Yespage]

And here we are back. Easier to watch some random team, than your own. Letting people get away without paying their fair share for local baseball.

You mean to watch baseball. EVERYONE is paying for the stadiums whether they care or not about sports.

 

[Derwin0]

No question. Baseball's persecution of Rose was always wrong,

He gambled on games that he was directly part of. Kept lying and changing his story every time he was caught in a lie.

but since the Supreme Court's ruling, totally hypocritical as well. Bet MGM has a sports book INSIDE the Reds' ballpark.

Not really, players and managers still can't bet on games. The only thing the Supreme Court ruling said, was that the Fed's couldn't prohibit States from allowing gambling, it had nothing to do with players/managers being allowed to bet on games they're in.

 

[Don in CT]

You mean to watch baseball. EVERYONE is paying for the stadiums whether they care or not about sports.

Everyone is paying for sports wether they care about them or not. Taxes, broadcast fees. Endorsement deals.

 

[Juan]

You mean to watch baseball. EVERYONE is paying for the stadiums whether they care or not about sports.

Not everywhere..just the taxpayers where the stadiums are

 

[Joe The Dragon]

the cubs need to get the blackhawks to move over to Marquee Sports Network and then Jerry Reinsdorf can try do what he wants with the bulls / sox. Even put them on a PAY ATSC 3.0 channel. The cubs did years of games on WGN.

 

[Yespage]

Everyone is paying for sports wether they care about them or not. Taxes, broadcast fees. Endorsement deals.

Those are small time things. Local municipalities are expected to pay hundreds of millions to build stadiums and keep up their appearances. Then demand a new stadium right when the bonds were finally paid off for the last one.

Because the current model, as established in long-term contracts, isn't in alignment with your desires.

Given that the various sports leagues don't exist solely for your personal viewing pleasure, it may not be reasonable assume that the current model is likely to be paradigm shifted to something more compatible immediately.

This is very true and very 20th century. Why are sports expensive? Because the broadcasters "pay" ridiculous amounts to broadcast it. They try to push those ridiculous deals off onto the viewers (and not viewers). That system is a dusty skeleton that is pretty much incompatible with today's media setup.

 

[Yespage]

Not everywhere..just the taxpayers where the stadiums are

People that live in Ohio paid some money for the Crew to stay in Columbus, paid for Progressive Field in Cleveland. The people that live in Franklin and Cuyahoga Counties paid more, but everyone paid for stadiums they might live three or four hours from.

 

[Juan]

People that live in Ohio paid some money for the Crew to stay in Columbus, paid for Progressive Field in Cleveland. The people that live in Franklin and Cuyahoga Counties paid more, but everyone paid for stadiums they might live three or four hours from.

Wasn't aware municipal bonds worked that way..learn something new everyday

 

[Yespage]

Wasn't aware municipal bonds worked that way..learn something new everyday

The limits of what you understand have little impact on the world or where the money comes from to pay for stadiums.

 

[navychop]

Local municipalities are expected to pay hundreds of millions to build stadiums and keep up their appearances.

Hopefully, this is fading away. I think most folks are realizing these stadiums are not going to put any money in THEIR pockets. Maybe just a hazy feeling, and suspicion where the “returns”, if any, are going.

Publicly paid stadiums to benefit high earning team owners etc must be getting to be a hard sell.

 

[SamCdbs]

Stadium extortion is another issue.

Towns, including those that really aren't "major" cities want to be thought of as such, and having a pro sports team is a way to get in that particular d*** measuring contest.

Cities which have been misgoverned into decay want to pretend that it is some, contradictory, combination of not really true and going to get better soon. New shiny stadiums, combined with what will usually be called "a mixed use development" (i.e. a mall for rich people, some over-priced apartments, and a dog park) are often a part of the latest "revitalization plan" for a blighted downtown.

In both cases, the local pols tax people that really have no interest in the matter, including in some states, people that live very far away from the cities in question.

 

[Derwin0]

People that live in Ohio paid some money for the Crew to stay in Columbus, paid for Progressive Field in Cleveland. The people that live in Franklin and Cuyahoga Counties paid more, but everyone paid for stadiums they might live three or four hours from.

Sucks for you, but here only the people in Cobb County were on the hook for the Braves new stadium.

As for the Falcons stadium, the Atlanta Hotel/Motel tax takes care of it.

So unless I stay in a hotel in Atlanta or move to Cobb County, I won't pay a cent for either.

 

[Bruce]

AT&T SportsNet RSNs are done for-
Warner Bros. Discovery has told teams that it plans to exit the regional sports network business entirely within the next several weeks.

The company, which operates three AT&T SportsNet-branded channels in Denver, Houston and Pittsburgh and has a minority stake in the Root Sportschannel in Seattle, has told teams that they have until March 31 to reach an agreement to take their rights back. If the RSNs can’t reach deals with the teams, the channels eventually plan to move forward with a Chapter 7 liquidation filing.

In a statement provided to SBJ, WBD said, “AT&T SportsNet is not immune to the well-known challenges that the entire RSN industry is facing. We will continue to engage in private conversations with our partners as we seek to identify reasonable and constructive solutions.”

WBD sent letters to the leagues and teams this afternoon informing them of their plans to divest their interest in those four RSNs.

WBD has rights deals with 10 teams across those four networks: four MLBteams (Astros, Mariners, Pirates, Rockies), three NBA teams (Blazers, Jazz, Rockets) and three NHL teams (Kraken, Penguins, Golden Knights).

Warner Bros. Discovery tells teams it is leaving RSN business

www.sportsbusinessjournal.com

 

[Bruce]

From the above link, looks like the Pirates will really be hurting soon-Sources also pointed to the Pirates deal in Pittsburgh as one that is especially advantageous to the team. Sources said the Pirates bring in an average of around $60 million per year from its local media deal.

 

[Don in CT]

From the above link, looks like the Pirates will really be hurting soon-Sources also pointed to the Pirates deal in Pittsburgh as one that is especially advantageous to the team. Sources said the Pirates bring in an average of around $60 million per year from its local media deal.

And it all goes to the owner not back into the team.

 

[SamCdbs]

And it all goes to the owner not back into the team.

Really? So the players are all volunteers? Who knew?

 

[Don in CT]

Really? So the players are all volunteers? Who knew?

The payroll is the lowest in baseball. The owner pockets the majority of the profits and doesn’t put it back into improving the roster.

 

[Juan]

The payroll is the lowest in baseball. The owner pockets the majority of the profits and doesn’t put it back into improving the roster.

What profits?

 

[Don in CT]

What profits?

The owner takes it. The team has the lowest payroll. They take luxury taxes from the league.

 

[SamCdbs]

The Pirates have a small payroll, because they have among the smallest markets. While Pittsburgh itself has done OK with the city, which is actually a pretty nice city and has a solid enough economy, the story in the rest of the natural Pirates region is very different. Most of western Pennsylvania, northern West Virginia, and extreme eastern Ohio are the buckle on the Rust Belt. Many people have left, those that remain are either old folks on pensions or live in poverty.

This is combined with the fact that both the Steelers and the Penguins are successful, and it is certainly more of a football region than a baseball region. The town is lucky to have a team at all.