MLB commissioner Selig appears to be "considering" reinstatement for Pete Rose
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Fay Vincent was on Mad dog radio and felt Selig would not act. Gambling is the worst offense against the integrity of any sport and Rose's lack of regret and arrogance doesnt help him. I vote no.
No one has successfully explained to me how betting on the team you are playing for to WIN damages the integrity of the game. I can see betting a line, betting to lose, betting over/under or one of several dozen other permutations. Pete Rose bet on his team to win.
How does that affect the outcome of the game or integrity of a game? Really. This is a real question. How does a player betting on his own team to win affect the integrity of the game?
See ya
Tony
How does that affect the outcome of the game or integrity of a game? Really. This is a real question. How does a player betting on his own team to win affect the integrity of the game?
See ya
Tony
That's like saying a player who only juiced in the offseason is OK. It's the principle of the matter. Once you start allowing exceptions like that you'll have the beer leaguers in the bullpen placing bets on the justification that they don't usually play. Then it'll be the bench guys, starters on their off days, guys on the DL, etc. It's just a can of worms you don't want to open.
:up That's the very question I've been asking for years.
I mean, he was supposed to WANT the Reds to win, right?
Don't get me wrong, I'm not condoning what he did, but like you said he didn't bet on his team to lose.
There's a pretty big distinction there.
I agree with that, but I also think it's time to let Pete back in. He has paid his debt.
No there isn't. The integrity of the game is in question. Do you really believe he never bet against his own team?
Let him back in the game, and vote him him into the HOF!
Hope you have a coat for that cold day in hell anders..........
Hope you have a coat for that cold day in hell anders..........
I TOTALLY agree. IF just as many players gambled as those who used steroids would have been involved....baseball would have gone the way of USFL....HISTORY. The game would have been infested with gamblers, bookies and low lives that would make the steroids situation pale in comparison.....it would be Don King-esque.
No, it's not. How many others players have bet on games and never been caught?
Does it make it right, no, but it happens, just like the guys who think they can squeak by a drug test these days.
What Pete did was give his team a vote of confidence, how does that hurt the game?
I also believe Pete did not bet against the Reds.
The games where Rose didn't place a bet would be just like betting against them. Say he bet on the Reds when their ace was pitching and did nothing the other games. Insiders would know what he was doing and they would bet the farm against the Reds on those games.
Because I would assume, sooner or later you want to be challenged...something to "make it worth your while".....and the "thrill" could lead a manager to bet against his team.
HOW do you know that sooner or later, they would NOT bet against their team?!! I know the question coming back, "you can't be sure they WILL bet against their own team....you are looking at hypotheticals...??!!" Well you know what? That is a chance NOT worth risking.....
I won't need one. The Pete Rose fan club may be deep but it is not wide. The day that you get 75% of the baseball writers to vote in Rose is the day that Barry Bonds gets in too. It won't happen.
That's a bold statement considering that Rose spent nearly 20 years denying that he even bet ON the Reds. There's nothing that Rose would not stoop to. His only regret is that he didn't play during the steroids era.
Speaking of BOLD statements full of BS!! That's a big one..........
Do you know the guy, personally? I don't, but I do know that Pete loved and lived baseball.
Because, you might play players, or make substitutions, in that particular game that you might not make otherwise.
You might bring in a hot pitcher that is normally scheduled for the next game.
Or sandbag the prior games to increase the odds in the game your betting on in order to increase the winnings.
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