MLB 2011 Season

[Jimbo]

Red Sox/ Yankees, 9th inning:

                  IP  H R ER BB SO HR
 Papelbon  (S, 6) 1.0 2 1  1  0  1  0

The Yankees hit .400 in the last inning.

Papelbon is a blown save waiting to happen

This has been going on for a few years now .... will they trade him or hope he turns it around ?
A while back they were discussing turning him into a Starter, have they dropped that idea all together ?

 

[SabresRule]

[/code]The Yankees hit .400 in the last inning.

And still lost.

 

[AntAltMike]

Papelbon is a blown save waiting to happen

This has been going on for a few years now .... will they trade him or hope he turns it around ?
A while back they were discussing turning him into a Starter, have they dropped that idea all together ?

Last year, someone posted a link to an article that showed how few swinging strikes Papelbon was inducing. It was about the worst percentage in the league, which is incredible for a fastball closer. I think he's simply gone after this season. He is getting $12 million this year, and there is no way the Red Sox will give him that kind of mone.

 

[Jimbo]

Last year, someone posted a link to an article that showed how few swinging strikes Papelbon was inducing. It was about the worst percentage in the league, which is incredible for a fastball closer. I think he's simply gone after this season. He is getting $12 million this year, and there is no way the Red Sox will give him that kind of mone.

Unless he turns it around this year and becomes dominant.

I would not be surprised to see then looking for a Prime Time Closer by the trade deadline, even though they have Bard already.

 

[AntAltMike]

Has there ever been a worse booth guest than Sarah Silverman?

 

[BillD1984]

Papelbon is a blown save waiting to happen

This has been going on for a few years now .... will they trade him or hope he turns it around ?
A while back they were discussing turning him into a Starter, have they dropped that idea all together ?

Papelbon came up as a starter in 2005.

 

[salsadancer7]

I know it is early, but what a great job they have done in Tampa. They lost some important pieces to their team...and they are standing on top of the American League East....with a GOD awful 10-11 home record and an AMAZING 13-5 road record.

 

[Ramy]

Reds win again and are back in first place.

 

[Jimbo]

Papelbon came up as a starter in 2005.

He did, or the club did ?

 

[cosmo_kramer]

Has there ever been a worse booth guest than Sarah Silverman?

You could tell Buck was uncomfortable having her there. What did they bleep her for?? Looked like Massholes to me....

 

[AntAltMike]

....what a great job they have done in Tampa...

With an annual payroll of $41 million.

 

[AntAltMike]

Here is proof positive that the Red Sox have more money than brains. Here is a table of their four highest paid players:

PLAYER       SALARY        POSITION 
Josh Beckett  $ 17,000,000 Pitcher 
John Lackey   $ 15,950,000 Pitcher 
Carl Crawford $ 14,857,142 Outfielder 
J.D. Drew     $ 14,000,000 Outfielder

Lackey is the least effective starter in the majors this season. He has given up eight or more runs THREE TIMES. All the other major leaguers combined have only done it five times. Crawford has been the least productive left fielder, and Drew probably has the worst $ per hit/RBI/#games played of any rightfielder over the length of his stay in Boston. Those three players salaries total more than those of the entire 25 man roster payroll of the Devil Rays.

 

[AntAltMike]

And on the subject of Posada, the guy is paid $13 million a year and is allowed to hit in a major league lineup while hitting .160 and he has to take a day off to contemplate the indignity of batting ninth? That tops George Scott complaining about batting seventh for the 1978 Red Sox. Who was he going to bat ahead of? The 3-6 hitters were Fred Lynn, Jim Rice, Carl Yastrzemski and Carlton Fisk, and he was hitting ahead of Butch Hobson (who once het 30 homers while batting 8th and 9th and never complained) and Dewey Exans.

 

[Jimbo]

Papelbon came up as a starter in 2005.

He did, or the club did ?

Sorry Bill, I read your comment wrong, thought you said they gave up on him as a starter, not that he came UP as a starter.

 

[Jimbo]

Papelbon came up as a starter in 2005.

Here is proof positive that the Red Sox have more money than brains. Here is a table of their four highest paid players:

PLAYER       SALARY        POSITION 
Josh Beckett  $ 17,000,000 Pitcher 
John Lackey   $ 15,950,000 Pitcher 
Carl Crawford $ 14,857,142 Outfielder 
J.D. Drew     $ 14,000,000 Outfielder

Lackey is the least effective starter in the majors this season. He has given up eight or more runs THREE TIMES. All the other major leaguers combined have only done it five times. Crawford has been the least productive left fielder, and Drew probably has the worst $ per hit/RBI/#games played of any rightfielder over the length of his stay in Boston. Those three players salaries total more than those of the entire 25 man roster payroll of the Devil Rays.

We all felt that way about the Tigers and Martinez when the season started as he was hitting about .141, now that he's heralthy and hitting, he looks great. My point is, it's WAY too early to worry about these things at this point.

Btw, isn't A. Gonzolas making more than these guys, he's doing quite fine ?

 

[AntAltMike]

We all felt that way about the Tigers and Martinez when the season started as he was hitting about .141, now that he's healthy and hitting, he looks great. My point is, it's WAY too early to worry about these things at this point.

It's not too early to denigrate the Nancy Drew contract. He has already been paid $45 million, and he just barely got next year vested at another $14 million by reaching his 500 game total for 2007-2010, and it's not to early to wine about Lackey, who has been paid $22 million out of his guaranteed $80 million and has been less than mediocre for a season and a quarter now.

And let's throw Dice-K into the mix, who actually costs the Red Sox about $16 million this year once you add a prorated "posting fee" to his annual salary. When he went 18-3 in 2008, he became the first pitcher in over a hundred years to end a season with fifteen more wins than losses while giving up an average of over five walks every nine innings. That had to catch up with him and did, just as the fact that no one swings and misses at Papelbon's pitches has to catch up with him and did, as he led the league in blown saves last year. This year, he pitched one of the five games not pitched by Lackey in which the starter gave up eight or more runs.

Btw, isn't A. Gonzolas making more than these guys, he's doing quite fine ?

I got the list from USA Today for opening day roster salaries. I'm not sure when Gonzo's new payrate kicks in, but it doesn't yet show up in the places where I looked for it. If this were "showbiz", I'd say to Gonzo, "break a leg", but...

 

[Ramy]

Reds win again. Sweep the Cards for the first time since 2007. Now have a 1 1/2 game lead.

 

[AntAltMike]

Reds win again. Sweep the Cards for the first time since 2007. Now have a 1 1/2 game lead.

Yeah, with just 122 games left, their "magic number" is down to 121.

 

[Ramy]

Yeah, with just 122 games left, their "magic number" is down to 121.

Nobody asked for your 2 cents. Why would you post something like that. Go troll somewhere else.

Sent from my blazing fast Thunderbolt!!!

 

[Jimbo]

I got the list from USA Today for opening day roster salaries. I'm not sure when Gonzo's new payrate kicks in, but it doesn't yet show up in the places where I looked for it. If this were "showbiz", I'd say to Gonzo, "break a leg", but...

I think they waited till AFTER the season started to sigh Gonzo, ended up being something like 167M.

His 2011 salary is only 6.3M, next year is when the increase kicks in.