Would have been cool but they do not have the antenna positioner and the fact that Star Choice bought all the boxes for there service in Canada, there was other reasons also but I do not recall them all, but it again really comes down to the subscriber count, all I got to say is if you have a big dish at least sub to one channel! many people have both a 4dtv and a dvb box but do not sub they only watch the free stuff, this is fine but it hurts the industry.