I know that there is already a "Trade Rumor" type thread out there...but when it involves quite possibly, one of THE best hitters in our lifetime, then it merits a thread all by itself. Down here, the sports talk radio is all abuzz about Manny coming down. IN FACT, most think it's a done deal the only thing that is left to be worked out is the issue of Manny waiving a clause in his contract about the Marlins picking up his option for next year.
...all I can say is....WOW!! IF this goes through, with all the arms coming into form for the Marlins, they HAVE to be considered the team to beat in the NL East.
...WOW!
Sources: Red Sox discussing deals to trade Manny
Updated: July 31, 2008, 6:43 AM ET
With the trade deadline looming, the Boston Red Sox are engaged in serious conversations to trade Manny Ramirez to the Florida Marlins, as well as other teams, sources told ESPN The Magazine's Buster Olney.
The deadline to trade players without going to waivers is Thursday at 4 p.m. ET. As a player with 10 years in the majors and five with the same team, Ramirez has the right to veto any deal.
The Ramirez trade conversations are expected to continue into Thursday, a source told ESPN's Peter Gammons. Because it's a very complicated deal, involving a player who has the right to veto the trade and other parts, it is still unlikely to happen. But the negotiations will go on.
"They haven't asked me for anything," Ramirez told ESPNdeportes.com's Enrique Rojas on the phone from Fenway Park before the Red Sox-Angels matchup on Wednesday night.
"The Red Sox don't deserve a player like me," Ramirez said. "During my years here, I've seen how they [the Red Sox] have mistreated other great players when they didn't want them to try to turn the fans against them.
"The Red Sox did the same with guys like Nomar Garciaparra and Pedro Martinez, and now they do the same with me. Their goal is to paint me as the bad guy," Ramirez added. "I love Boston fans, but the Red Sox don't deserve me. I'm not talking about money. Mental peace has no price, and I don't have peace here."
Still, Boston players weren't convinced Ramirez would be dealt before Thursday's deadline.
"I think around here there's a lot more smoke than fire. If something happens, it happens," Boston's Mike Lowell said.
The deal might be a long shot, but Marlins president David Samson didn't rule it out Wednesday.
On his weekly radio show, Samson addressed reports the Marlins are discussing a trade to acquire Ramirez from the Red Sox.
"The Marlins always seem to be in the middle of everything," Samson said on WAXY-AM. "It takes two to tango. We're looking everywhere. We're making calls. We're getting calls. But we're not going to be stupid."
Asked specifically whether a deal for Ramirez was possible, Samson said, "I've always told you everything is possible. There are all sorts of crazy things. There's no way to say which trades are going to happen."
ESPN - Sources: Red Sox discussing deals to trade Manny - MLB
Now the REAL telling thing about the conversation with Sampson(heard the interview myself) is that is has never pulled punches. Whanever they have asked him about trades, and they weren't true.....he would falt out deny them and it was a done deal.....but whenever he has danced, shimmied and rope-a-doped around a rumor, you KNEW that they were up to something.....and that "something" would be in the form of a trade within hours.....
....stay tuned......
...all I can say is....WOW!! IF this goes through, with all the arms coming into form for the Marlins, they HAVE to be considered the team to beat in the NL East.
...WOW!
Sources: Red Sox discussing deals to trade Manny
Updated: July 31, 2008, 6:43 AM ET
With the trade deadline looming, the Boston Red Sox are engaged in serious conversations to trade Manny Ramirez to the Florida Marlins, as well as other teams, sources told ESPN The Magazine's Buster Olney.
The deadline to trade players without going to waivers is Thursday at 4 p.m. ET. As a player with 10 years in the majors and five with the same team, Ramirez has the right to veto any deal.
The Ramirez trade conversations are expected to continue into Thursday, a source told ESPN's Peter Gammons. Because it's a very complicated deal, involving a player who has the right to veto the trade and other parts, it is still unlikely to happen. But the negotiations will go on.
"They haven't asked me for anything," Ramirez told ESPNdeportes.com's Enrique Rojas on the phone from Fenway Park before the Red Sox-Angels matchup on Wednesday night.
"The Red Sox don't deserve a player like me," Ramirez said. "During my years here, I've seen how they [the Red Sox] have mistreated other great players when they didn't want them to try to turn the fans against them.
"The Red Sox did the same with guys like Nomar Garciaparra and Pedro Martinez, and now they do the same with me. Their goal is to paint me as the bad guy," Ramirez added. "I love Boston fans, but the Red Sox don't deserve me. I'm not talking about money. Mental peace has no price, and I don't have peace here."
Still, Boston players weren't convinced Ramirez would be dealt before Thursday's deadline.
"I think around here there's a lot more smoke than fire. If something happens, it happens," Boston's Mike Lowell said.
The deal might be a long shot, but Marlins president David Samson didn't rule it out Wednesday.
On his weekly radio show, Samson addressed reports the Marlins are discussing a trade to acquire Ramirez from the Red Sox.
"The Marlins always seem to be in the middle of everything," Samson said on WAXY-AM. "It takes two to tango. We're looking everywhere. We're making calls. We're getting calls. But we're not going to be stupid."
Asked specifically whether a deal for Ramirez was possible, Samson said, "I've always told you everything is possible. There are all sorts of crazy things. There's no way to say which trades are going to happen."
ESPN - Sources: Red Sox discussing deals to trade Manny - MLB
Now the REAL telling thing about the conversation with Sampson(heard the interview myself) is that is has never pulled punches. Whanever they have asked him about trades, and they weren't true.....he would falt out deny them and it was a done deal.....but whenever he has danced, shimmied and rope-a-doped around a rumor, you KNEW that they were up to something.....and that "something" would be in the form of a trade within hours.....
....stay tuned......
