Manny Ramirez could be a Marlin by 4:00pm today!!

[KCK_Halo]

KCK,
Kudos on a GREAT post!!!

Thanks Bill. As you probably can tell by my posts, I do not wish to get confrontational with fellow posters. However, if there is one individual who can get all of my baseball bad blood flowing it is Manny. Plus his many defenders complelely baffle me.

Nonetheless, I respect the affection salsadancer7 has for Manny and I hope no harm was taken by anyone with my rather pointed post.

As the sainted Chick Hearn would say "No harm. No foul!"

 

[BillD1984]

TWO MONTHS....barely....You guys think he will have THAT MUCH influence on Handley Ramirez in a 2 months span....??!! AND, that was 3 years ago....THREE YEARS AGO??!! When Handley and Manny in the same clubhouse and he was JUST out of the minors.....You are under assumption that he has done little maturing at all.....

Man....get your heads outta your a$$......HE IS A RENTAL......LOL:haha

Ok fine, but that begs my next question. Why would a young contending team with a $21 Million payroll want to rent a guy they have NO CHANCE at resigning AND give up prospects?

 

[cosmo_kramer]

Ok fine, but that begs my next question. Why would a young contending team with a $21 Million payroll want to rent a guy they have NO CHANCE at resigning AND give up prospects?

Because they want to get paid to take him as a rental:

ESPN's Peter Gammons reports that the Marlins wanted an extra $2 million from the Red Sox above and beyond what Manny Ramirez was owed in order to complete a deal.
That's an especially absurd thought given that the Marlins are likely to take in more on revenue sharing alone this year than they're spending on payroll. If Ramirez is traded now, it might be to the Dodgers.

 

[Peter Parker]

You actually think by trading Manny away to ANYBODY, that you will get the same value?

No of course not. Every member of the Red Sox Nation has some fond memories of manny. But this as a complicated situation. He had antagonized management and the veterans on the team wanted him gone. Like everyone else i wish that this could ahve ended differently we will have less production from the third and fourth spots in the lineup now---or I think we will. But it may have been necessary.

Then again the Sox made the same arguments about a clubhouse cancer and unreasonalbe demands when they sold Babe Ruth. Hopefully this does not work out as badly as that.

 

[salsadancer7]

Thanks Bill. As you probably can tell by my posts, I do not wish to get confrontational with fellow posters. However, if there is one individual who can get all of my baseball bad blood flowing it is Manny. Plus his many defenders complelely baffle me.

Nonetheless, I respect the affection salsadancer7 has for Manny and I hope no harm was taken by anyone with my rather pointed post.

As the sainted Chick Hearn would say "No harm. No foul!"

I am not a defender of Manny but a defender of having the one of THE best bats in the last year in your line. For a short stint, he would improve ANY TEAM.....

 

[salsadancer7]

Ok fine, but that begs my next question. Why would a young contending team with a $21 Million payroll want to rent a guy they have NO CHANCE at resigning AND give up prospects?

DUDE...it is done ALL the time and they were giving up Hermedia, who until this year, had NOT lived up to potential and had a history of injury and minor leaguer that was NOT in their future plans. The Marlins minor league farms systems have been one of THE top 5 or 10 best in the majors. To have a bat like that and NOT GIVE UP the farm.....please, that's a no brainer.

 

[salsadancer7]

Because they want to get paid to take him as a rental:

MORE reason to make the deal if had gone through!:up

 

[salsadancer7]

No of course not. Every member of the Red Sox Nation has some fond memories of manny. But this as a complicated situation. He had antagonized management and the veterans on the team wanted him gone. Like everyone else i wish that this could ahve ended differently we will have less production from the third and fourth spots in the lineup now---or I think we will. But it may have been necessary.

Then again the Sox made the same arguments about a clubhouse cancer and unreasonalbe demands when they sold Babe Ruth. Hopefully this does not work out as badly as that.

I love this, it is amazing how much of this information is actually factual. Look, like I have stated MANY times over.....I have worked in sports media in a major market and 90% of all stories coming from the clubhouse is either a lie or partially true. You never get the full, completely truthful story.....period. Neither you, me nor anyone else know that "veterans on the team wanted him out" unless they looked STRAIGHT INTO A CAMERA and said it....or if we were there...and we weren't.

And if ANY Red Sox fan thinks they have improved by trading for Jason Bay, they are kidding themselves. Don't get me wrong, Jason Bay is a nice, good major league hitter....but he is NOWHERE near Manny's neighborhood. I could be wrong, but late in the season, when the Red Sox are in a dogfight and they are playing the Yankees, we shall see if Bay can hit above .400 against the Yanks like he did.

 

[vurbano]

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And if ANY Red Sox fan thinks they have improved by trading for Jason Bay, they are kidding themselves. Don't get me wrong, Jason Bay is a nice, good major league hitter....but he is NOWHERE near Manny's neighborhood. I could be wrong, but late in the season, when the Red Sox are in a dogfight and they are playing the Yankees, we shall see if Bay can hit above .400 against the Yanks like he did.

Amen Salsa. lets see what Bay can do against the Yanks and Rays in September. Crtical games against them in the end of august and september. Boston gave up the best hitter in the game, 21 million dollars!!!!!!!! http://www.ocregister.com/ocregister/sports/dodgers/article_2110682.php , a pitcher (something they need badly) and another outfielder for Bay. Horrible trade. Manny was a problem? I bet every other team in the league would love to have that "problem" in their batting lineup.