Dropped dishnetwork for time warner cable. Price wise they are about the same for what I will watch. Basic and standard is 46.95 plus 3.95 for movie pack which includes 7 encore channels both east and west coast feeds fox movie ifc sundance and movieplex. That is 18 channels for 3.95 My hdtv is cable ready which means I have a cable card slot the card only costs 1.75 per month. The upconversion of the tv is great I watched espn2 drag racing this sunday and I thought I was watching espn2hd it was that good. Less wires now in back of the tv with the cable card. Time warner also gives me in Minneapolis discovery hd theater and tnt hd for free they only charge for inhd inhd2 hdnet hdnet movie espnhd. With dish on the old hd pack I watched mostly tnthd so this is a plus for me. The sd channels and analog ones look real good with the cable card and the cable clear that come built in the tv. After four years with dish I do not miss my satellite now the change over to cable was a good experience I started out with dish never had cable only had free rabbit ear tv back then. MY hdtv is a Toshiba 62HM94 I really like this tv with my cable now. Any body out there with a hdtv with cable card should give it a try good luck to all of you guys bobd.