Well, I went out to swap out my Sadoun KUL1 .4 db lnb for a Fortec Universal .3lnb. WOW! Now it is cloudy out, but I went from 53-60% on my Fortec Lifetime Classic NA to 66% on 11720. The stronger tp's went up about 6% too. It is misting and overcast/cloudy out. I think I will leave the universal lnb on. Every satellite I have check the signals are up at least 6%!