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"[T]he public ramifications of this dispute exceed the abstract principles of the antitrust laws, as professional football involves many layers of tangible economic impact, ranging from broadcast revenues down to concessions sales," she wrote. "And, of course, the public interest represented by the fans of professional football -- who have a strong investment in the 2011 season -- is an intangible interest that weighs against the lockout. In short, this particular employment dispute is far from a purely private argument over compensation."
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Well, that particular reasoning is fodder for appeal.
 
HD MM said:
It would be so nice to have this settled before the draft. Unfortunately, this doesn't look like it'll be the case.
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If anything, it just adds more legal wrangling and appeals. Players will be reporting this morning, but not be allowed to do anything due to liability concerns: get hurt in the weight room, talk about contracts, etc...
 
I don't think the owners will have any problems getting that decision overturned. The law prohibits the government from interfering with those type matters.
 
cosmo_kramer said:
If anything, it just adds more legal wrangling and appeals. Players will be reporting this morning, but not be allowed to do anything due to liability concerns: get hurt in the weight room, talk about contracts, etc...
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Owners still can't trade players yet, can they?
 
HD MM said:
Owners still can't trade players yet, can they?
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Looks like that depends on the appeals:

If the injunction is upheld, the NFL must resume business in some fashion.

It could invoke the 2010 rules for free agency, meaning players would need six seasons of service before becoming unrestricted free agents when their contracts expire; previously, it was four years. The requirement for restricted free agents would be four years rather than the three years before 2010. There also was no salary cap in 2010, meaning teams could spend as much—or as little — as they wanted.

Jim Quinn, an attorney for the players, said the pressure is on the league.

“They better act quickly, because as of right now there’s no stay and, presumably, players could sign with teams,” Quinn said. “There are no guidelines as of right now, so they have to put something in place quickly.”
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NFL players can go back to work -- for now - NFL - Yahoo! Sports
 
Ramy said:
I don't think the owners will have any problems getting that decision overturned. The law prohibits the government from interfering with those type matters.
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Even if the court could, the ruling the judge used is ridiculus to begin with, as it has nothing to do with it being a business matter, but pretty much called the NFL a public accomidation.
 
Jets players said they were granted access to the facility, but they described it as a scene from "The Shining" -- closed doors and empty hallways. Players said they saw no coaches and were told they couldn't work out because there was no supervision.

Left tackle D'Brickashaw Ferguson, who has a league-high $750,000 workout bonus, said his appearance should count toward the bonus even though he couldn't work out.

"Oh, most definitely," he told ESPNNewYork.com. "I made every opportunity to avail myself to work out. But at this time I wasn't afforded that opportunity."
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$750K just to workout?? :eek: I'm think I'm gonna be sick....

DeMaurice Smith: NFL hurting fans by allowing 'chaos' - ESPN
 
I wonder what the "average NFL Player" will make when there is no garunteed mininum wage in a "contract" to protect them. I am sure the "stars" will do better tho
 
Better yet, since there's no collective bargaining, just go ahead and say the last 2 preseason games count towards the regular season.
 
I think the owner were betting on this lockout to go into September and October. Hoping the non-superstar players... which consist of about 90-95% of the league, would cave and pressure the rest of the players to ok just about any contract thrown there way. I think this judge knows the major financial impact the NFL has on cities like no other professional sport and to me, made the right decision for the local communities that really depend on NFL dollars. Let's face it, the NFL brings a lot more business than most other sports eventhough those other sports play much more games. It is part of the American culture...what baseball USE TO be.
 
salsadancer7 said:
I think this judge knows the major financial impact the NFL has on cities like no other professional sport and to me, made the right decision for the local communities that really depend on NFL dollars.
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Yes, but that has no bearing whatsoever in labor law. And using it to justify a ruling ensures a successful appeal.

The judge is supposed to stick to the law when making a ruling.
 
Here's Goodell's view of what the NFL would be like if the players win:

• No draft. "Why should there even be a draft?" said player agent Brian Ayrault. "Players should be able to choose who they work for. Markets should determine the value of all contracts. Competitive balance is a fallacy."

• No minimum team payroll. Some teams could have $200 million payrolls while others spend $50 million or less.

• No minimum player salary. Many players could earn substantially less than today's minimums.

• No standard guarantee to compensate players who suffer season- or career-ending injuries. Players would instead negotiate whatever compensation they could.

• No league-wide agreements on benefits. The generous benefit programs now available to players throughout the league would become a matter of individual club choice and individual player negotiation.

• No limits on free agency. Players and agents would team up to direct top players to a handful of elite teams. Other teams, perpetually out of the running for the playoffs, would serve essentially as farm teams for the elites.

• No league-wide rule limiting the length of training camp or required off-season workout obligations. Each club would have its own policies.

• No league-wide testing program for drugs of abuse or performance enhancing substances. Each club could have its own program—or not.
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Roger Goodell: Football's Future If the Players Win - WSJ.com

Sounds like propaganda trying to sway sentiment back to the owners...
 
What you probably won't find is any counsel or the players refuting that point by point list, because it's true. Class Counsel Jeffrey Kessler wants all of those things.

Label it whatever you want to serve your agenda of not liking the commissioner, or finding ways to side with the players, but what he said is true.

This is why some of the mid tier players are reportedly prepared to hire their own firm to represent them, because if all of those things happen how do you really think it would affect the already multi-millionaire veteran player-plantiffs (which the exception of Von Miller, a top 10 draft pick who will have an opportunity to influence the eventual rookie wage scale that will possibly immediately affect how much money he'll make as a pro)?
 
It's obviously a doom & gloom scenario, a worst case for each item.

Funny too how Goodell calls the past six weeks a "work stoppage", attempting to shift blame to the players, when as the TV contract information detailed in court showed, the lockout was clearly a calculated move by the owners.
 
Derwin0 said:
Yes, but that has no bearing whatsoever in labor law. And using it to justify a ruling ensures a successful appeal.

The judge is supposed to stick to the law when making a ruling.
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Yeah, let's wait and see what the appeal says before certain people here start doing the 'dance of joy'.


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