1) They won't. 2) Do the math and you'll see how impractical the suggestion even is.
If Dish drops AMC, will you drop dish??
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It's been evident from similar threads over the years that the numbers of folks posting they would switch far exceeds the numbers that actually eventually follow through....
Thanks. Would have been impossible to have a specific option for every individual.
same here
one can only dream
again, hope you are right
this is exactly the case. quite a few people said the same about the disneyhd and FX fiasco. if we do not drop, there will be some serious downsizing for sure!
And that's why I said it won't scale up and I showed the subscriber loss if 5% and 2% dropped. 16% is not a realistic number but 2% might be.
This is from a Wall Street Journal article from today but I think you need to be a paid subscriber to read it so I will cut and paste the key parts of it.
'Mad Men,' 'Walking Dead' Channel AMC Posts 45% Rise in Earnings - WSJ.com
Facing a threat of having its channels dropped by Dish Network Corp., AMC Networks Inc. Chief Executive Josh Sapan said online availability of AMC programs was helping ratings on the channel.
"New viewers are finding these shows on a digital service, catching up on prior seasons and then tuning into AMC for new seasons in greater numbers, many for the first time," Mr. Sapan said on a conference call with analysts Thursday.
Dish Chairman Charlie Ergen said on Monday that the availability of AMC's hit shows such as "Mad Men" and "Breaking Bad" on online video outlets had "devalued their programming content" and contributed to Dish's decision not to renew the channels.
Mr. Sapan's defense of AMC's programming decisions came as AMC reported 45% higher first-quarter earnings on higher advertising revenue at its namesake channel and the continuing popularity of AMC shows like "The Walking Dead."
AMC warned that its future financial performance could be affected if its channels were dropped by Dish, but it didn't specify by how much. Dish has more than 14 million subscribers.
Mr. Sapan said that AMC's networks remains "underpriced" in the market, though it reported an 8% increase in affiliate fees from distributors in the first quarter. Mr. Sapan said the pickup was "the beginning of an upward trend in more recent agreements" with distributors.
However, he continued to attribute Dish's decision to bad blood in a years-old lawsuit between the two companies. Dish is "trying to create leverage for itself" in the case, Mr. Sapan said. Dish has said that the lawsuit and its decision to drop AMC are two separate matters.
AMC Networks, which was spun off from Cablevision Systems Corp. last June, has reinvented itself in recent years with a slate of highly rated original-show successes, shedding its image as a sleepy broadcaster of independent movies and classic westerns. The transformation has come at a cost, however, as higher programming and marketing expenses to promote shows like "Mad Men" cut into its bottom line.
AMC Networks reported a profit of $43.2 million, or 60 cents a share, up from $29.8 million, or 43 cents, a year earlier. Revenue jumped 20% to $326.2 million as the namesake channel contributed to a 30% rise in advertising revenue.
'Mad Men,' 'Walking Dead' Channel AMC Posts 45% Rise in Earnings - WSJ.com
Facing a threat of having its channels dropped by Dish Network Corp., AMC Networks Inc. Chief Executive Josh Sapan said online availability of AMC programs was helping ratings on the channel.
"New viewers are finding these shows on a digital service, catching up on prior seasons and then tuning into AMC for new seasons in greater numbers, many for the first time," Mr. Sapan said on a conference call with analysts Thursday.
Dish Chairman Charlie Ergen said on Monday that the availability of AMC's hit shows such as "Mad Men" and "Breaking Bad" on online video outlets had "devalued their programming content" and contributed to Dish's decision not to renew the channels.
Mr. Sapan's defense of AMC's programming decisions came as AMC reported 45% higher first-quarter earnings on higher advertising revenue at its namesake channel and the continuing popularity of AMC shows like "The Walking Dead."
AMC warned that its future financial performance could be affected if its channels were dropped by Dish, but it didn't specify by how much. Dish has more than 14 million subscribers.
Mr. Sapan said that AMC's networks remains "underpriced" in the market, though it reported an 8% increase in affiliate fees from distributors in the first quarter. Mr. Sapan said the pickup was "the beginning of an upward trend in more recent agreements" with distributors.
However, he continued to attribute Dish's decision to bad blood in a years-old lawsuit between the two companies. Dish is "trying to create leverage for itself" in the case, Mr. Sapan said. Dish has said that the lawsuit and its decision to drop AMC are two separate matters.
AMC Networks, which was spun off from Cablevision Systems Corp. last June, has reinvented itself in recent years with a slate of highly rated original-show successes, shedding its image as a sleepy broadcaster of independent movies and classic westerns. The transformation has come at a cost, however, as higher programming and marketing expenses to promote shows like "Mad Men" cut into its bottom line.
AMC Networks reported a profit of $43.2 million, or 60 cents a share, up from $29.8 million, or 43 cents, a year earlier. Revenue jumped 20% to $326.2 million as the namesake channel contributed to a 30% rise in advertising revenue.
I have to think that if these advertising companies know what they are doing. If their revenue increased by 45% due to increased ad money they must think more people are watching.
-AMC has higher viewership ratings than Discovery, TV Land, MTV, Comedy Central, SyFy, Animal Planet, National Geographic, and a ton of others.
-AMC ranks 15th of 96 among cable channels. (16th of 94 in prime time.)
-The Walking Dead was the #1-rated show on cable networks for the week of 5/12.
I'm just saying.
This survey doesn't have a response that applies to what I believe would be a significant number of people. The "No" here is conditional and that condition does not apply to me. There is no straight "no" or "No - I don't watch any of the rainbow channels since they added 50% commercial content and would never notice them missing"
It shows the bias of the creator of the poll in thinking that "everyone" cares about these channels.
It shows the bias of the creator of the poll in thinking that "everyone" cares about these channels.
again, it would be impossible to have a specific option for every individual. should have just left the options yes,no,maybe,
but even then people would find a reason to complain. It's simple, just put NO.
I have decided to go back to Time Warner because they made me just an insane Win-Back offer (which I will post details later in the Time Warner forum where it would be on-topic). However, I will not return to Dish as much as I like them unless they have AMC when that time comes. Have to have Walking Dead. 
Goes to show that no one ever went broke underestimating the intelligence of the American public.
Disclaimer - I have never watched "The Walking Dead", so I have no idea why it's popular.
I have decided to go back to Time Warner because they made me just an insane Win-Back offer (which I will post details later in the Time Warner forum where it would be on-topic). However, I will not return to Dish as much as I like them unless they have AMC when that time comes. Have to have Walking Dead.
Are you going to post it in your "Considering a return to Time Warner" thread?
Hi empiretc. Yes I will put details there.
Sorry if anyone thinks I pulled the thread off-topic. I was definitely trying to comment on the AMC topic as it relates to my situation. And I still intend to hang out here in the Dish section as much as possible. Too many cool folks here to miss out on that entirely. LOL
