How long can BD bleed?????
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A kid buying a PS3 for his SD tv in the bedroom is not interested in watching Open Season. If what your saying is true then it shouldn't be Neilson Videoscan for sales, lets name it Neilson Videoscan for FUD.
:up:up:up IMO The true gauge of how well a format is doing is not how many discs they have managed to give away which is 1/2 of all the BD Neilsen numbers for BD but rather how much money the consumers have been willing to spend on those discs. That is what needs to be tracked and compared. You can't fake that. Every person has a budget for his entertainment dollars and that data would show how well a format is doing at getting those dollars. Combine that with Neilsen data and you can also see how much of a blood letting Sony is enduring.
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I agree 100%. Have 2 columns #discs paid for......#actual discs taken
for both formats
THEN decide how well each is doing
So you think that the only disc sales are from the BOGO's? Nobody really knows how much they count toward the final weekly numbers. I would though like to know what the true numbers are for both formats.
Well, duh! You didn't use the only just and fair equation to reach the actual number of BluRay discs people own.
(B/2) - O - P - H - S - D - J - F - T = 17 total discs sold so far. HD-DVD is clearly the victor
B = BD's sold
/2 = (to account for BOGOs)
O = 33% are family movies like Open Season because nobody could ever actually want to watch them so we toss those out of the count
P = Only 25% of people with a PS3 watch movies on it so we have to adjust for that misrepresentation by tossing out 75% of the overall sales
H = Amazon said HD Harry Potter outsold BD Potter, so we toss out all Potter sales
S = The Spiderman box set penalty. Toss out another 66% because the Spidey set had 3 movies in it and each set sold should only count as .33 movies sold
D = Die Hard Box. this time toss out another 75% since there were 4 discs
J = Jack Ryan. Had the set not been bungled, 83% of BD purchasers would have jumped to HD-DVD so we toss out 83% of BD sales since October.
F = We deduct another 66% of sales because Neilsen spread FUD by reporting obvious wrong counts.
T = Transformers pwns you BD nubs! 93% of BD sales don't matter as a result
All of this is scientific and non biased so it must be true. None of it shows how that changes how many BD are in peoples homes....Well, duh! You didn't use the only just and fair equation to reach the actual number of BluRay discs people own.
(B/2) - O - P - H - S - D - J - F - T = 17 total discs sold so far. HD-DVD is clearly the victor
B = BD's sold
/2 = (to account for BOGOs)
O = 33% are family movies like Open Season because nobody could ever actually want to watch them so we toss those out of the count
P = Only 25% of people with a PS3 watch movies on it so we have to adjust for that misrepresentation by tossing out 75% of the overall sales
H = Amazon said HD Harry Potter outsold BD Potter, so we toss out all Potter sales
S = The Spiderman box set penalty. Toss out another 66% because the Spidey set had 3 movies in it and each set sold should only count as .33 movies sold
D = Die Hard Box. this time toss out another 75% since there were 4 discs
J = Jack Ryan. Had the set not been bungled, 83% of BD purchasers would have jumped to HD-DVD so we toss out 83% of BD sales since October.
F = We deduct another 66% of sales because Neilsen spread FUD by reporting obvious wrong counts.
T = Transformers pwns you BD nubs! 93% of BD sales don't matter as a result
sarcasm?
Disks in homes means nothing to a studio trying to make money. A HUGE percentage of BD in homes the studios didn't make a dime. Oh and people want disks in their home that they want to watch, not a throw in like Open Season that by the way Neilson Videoscan of FUD had ranked #2 is sales, but nobody purchased it.
who cares how many free discs are in homes? What matters is the amount of money people are willing to spend that defines how well a format is doing. Honestly that is the most ignorant viewpoint Ive seen yet. If Ford were running a BOGO on its Mustangs there would be two in every driveway. Would that say that Ford is doing well? Hell no, they would be bankrupt while Chevrolet that had half as many camaros in people driveway would be doing very well. That is the exact lie of the BD BOGO laiden Nielsen numbers..
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I never said blu-ray was making more money, i said there were more discs in homes, regardless of how they got there. The arguments people were using had nothing to do with that point, which is the only one i was making.
I would think it could mean something, just what and how it will effect this "war" remains to be seen
I will say you've made little sense here. You must have some ideas as to how free movies will shape this war. Give us something or else its just empty oppinions. Most people here back up their wild oppinions with something.
It's an interesting point though. How many BOGO's ended up buying 1 movie and getting a movie that they normally wouldn't have purchased just because it was free. I know I have done this with game sales.
More discs in home may or may not mean something in this case.
An example of this is the 5 free deals. In several categories there were movies I would have not bought normally but were the best of those groups. Like Apollo 13 (great movie, Just not one I want to watch again any time soon) is still in its cellophane wrapper. But since I got it free its in my house.
Just a thought on it.
Actually "most" people here back up their opinions with facts that either leave something out or are spun in some form. My original point was something everyone pretty much agrees on, that there are more BD in home(doesnt matter how they got there).
As to the last part, i can see how having more of a particular format in your home COULD effect the outcome. Most of us here and people buying right now are early adoptors that people come to when making decisions about electronic equipment, ect.
J6P comes into your home, looks and there are 30 BD there and 5 HD-DVDs, the conclusion could be drawn (right or wrong) that Blu-ray is the way to go since there are so many more. He doesnt know that half were BOGO, nor does HE probably care.
I thought that the post you quoted was pretty obvious in that it was my opinion anyway.
It means nothing when only half of those discs were purchased. You don't see this? Do you have some sort of learning disability?
BTW those discs are only in 1-2% of the market.
Read my above post as to one POSSIBLE way.It means nothing when only half of those discs were purchased. You don't see this? Do you have some sort of learning disability?
Yes, since I may have a different take on this, I must have a learning disorder...
