HBO to go all HD

Actually there is quite a bit of difference between the HBO channels. The one channel that we presently get in HD does not show many of the movies shown on their other channels.
I think they wised up to the fact that subs wised up and they're less redundant than they used to be.
 
If dish falls behind I'll be one of the first ones out the door. I certainly hope they don't take the cheap road and end up falling way behind the game.

Why would you think they would fall behind?
DISH:
has more SD locals
will likely match D* in HD locals in 2008
has better PQ, less compression
has the best MPEG-4 HD DVR available
has more national HD channels
has 2 new satellites going up this year that will allow a single, small dish solution

Any national HD D* gets will likely be on E* not long after, if not before. The only advantage I see in D* is they have more sports. I'm not interested in sports, and I gather most people prefer not to give up everything else above just to get (expensive) sports like the Sunday Ticket.
 
The only advantage I see in D* is they have more sports. I'm not interested in sports, and I gather most people prefer not to give up everything else above just to get (expensive) sports like the Sunday Ticket.

Other than the RSNs and the usual suspects (networks, ESPN etc) the other large sports packages I could do without. I would much prefer the money be spent on other things. Unless I am mistaken, that $700M D* paid baseball would pay for 2 satellites and their associated costs. Something most if not every subscriber would benefit from. A no brainer if you ask me.
 
Other than the RSNs and the usual suspects (networks, ESPN etc) the other large sports packages I could do without. I would much prefer the money be spent on other things. Unless I am mistaken, that $700M D* paid baseball would pay for 2 satellites and their associated costs. Something most if not every subscriber would benefit from. A no brainer if you ask me.

They paid $700M/yr for the NFL package, not the MLB deal.

I don't know their NFL:ST subscriber statistics. It is possible that the deal pays for itself in the combined revenue from selling NFL:ST subs and the extra subs it brings in for their regular packages.
 
They paid $700M/yr for the NFL package, not the MLB deal.

Yes they did,It was plenty of discussion about that here.

http://www.satelliteguys.us/dish-network-forum/93751-dish-network-statement-mlb-13.html

Also you can read this quote
If Dish and cable operators fail to strike an agreement with MLB by March 31, the league is prepared to follow through on its exclusive deal with DirecTV. DirecTV has offered to pay $700 million over seven years and to carry The Baseball Channel once it's launched
You can read the article here:

Senators criticize MLB-DirecTV deal - MarketWatch
 
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From what I've read, D* certainly has not sold anywhere near enough Sunday Tickets to pay the cost of providing it. But they must believe it brings in enough subs to make it worthwhile.

I'd be real unhappy if E* paid that kind of money for ST or any other sports.
 
Yes they did,It was plenty of discussion about that here.

http://www.satelliteguys.us/dish-network-forum/93751-dish-network-statement-mlb-13.html

Also you can read this quote

You can read the article here:

Senators criticize MLB-DirecTV deal - MarketWatch

Okay, we are both right.

They are paying $700M/yr for NFL:ST

They are also paying $700M/7yrs, or $100M/yr, for MLB:EI.

As sports contracts go, $100M/yr isn't a huge number. Heck, it's only about half the Yankees' payroll. That's about 55 cents a month per D* sub, although they don't price it that way. I think E* is paying about $3/month for the ESPN channels.
 
...and here we all assume these just show up in current packages & pricing.

I can see Dish giving us the current one, maybe two HD (per premium) at the current prices, but I'd bet good money that the premium (& AEP) prices start going up if there are suddenly 5-10 HD channels per premium package.

(NOTE...I hope I'm wrong!)

I really think that they will resist that; as more and more programming goes HD, it will become the new standard for all programming; and as such, they will want to be competititve. Increasing the price, will not help them.

And it wouldn't help me that's for sure; as it is - I am usually in trouble with my wife anytime she see the Dish bill. :)
 
If D* doesn't charge extra for them, and D*'s HD upcharge stays at $10, there is no way E* is going to be able to increase their charge. Else D* will eat their lunch on price comparisons.

Likewise for the big cable operators.

Just pointing out that E* isn't operating in a vacuum here and cannot just up prices without possible repercussions.
 
Just pointing out that E* isn't operating in a vacuum here and cannot just up prices without possible repercussions.

Very true. But there is always a first one to raise prices. No reason E* shouldnt be included in that group. Then again.... if they follow old practices that die hard, the first to raise prices probably will be Comcast.
 
With the overall fabulous picture and audio quality on Blu-ray I would find it VERY hard to buy any of these pay movie channels. Especially the ones like HBO that crop 2.35:1 movies.
 
With the overall fabulous picture and audio quality on Blu-ray I would find it VERY hard to buy any of these pay movie channels. Especially the ones like HBO that crop 2.35:1 movies.

I'm ready to "just say yes" to Blu Ray OR HD DVD when the price is right AND they decide which system is going to survive!

History shows the least expensive system will survive even if the other system is superior and I haven't seen that Blu Ray is clearly superior anyway....certainly not enough to command 2x the price of HD DVD.
 
Maybe it turned out to be a dud, but wasnt there a prototype of a dual format HD player at one of the electronics trade shows?
 
Maybe it turned out to be a dud, but wasnt there a prototype of a dual format HD player at one of the electronics trade shows?

Best buy has an LG dual format dvd player. It does both Hd dvd and Blue Ray and sells for about $1199.00. It is way to high for anyone to buy when you consider you could buy a $299.99 HD dvd player now ( ON sale at Best Buy)and a $499.99 Blue ray dvd player ( ON sale this week at Best Buy)and still have money left over of about $300.00 .
 
I'm ready to "just say yes" to Blu Ray OR HD DVD when the price is right AND they decide which system is going to survive!

History shows the least expensive system will survive even if the other system is superior and I haven't seen that Blu Ray is clearly superior anyway....certainly not enough to command 2x the price of HD DVD.

I believe the Blu Ray group just announced that movies in their format are out-selling HD DVD movies by a 2:1 margin.
 
With the overall fabulous picture and audio quality on Blu-ray I would find it VERY hard to buy any of these pay movie channels. Especially the ones like HBO that crop 2.35:1 movies.

They don't crop them, they show them in their original aspect ratio. And with Blu-Ray movies going for around $30.00 a pop I think a small (if Dish even decides to increase rates) rate increase is worth it.
 

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