That's what I meant.....you are just more specific than me....
My point was that BBC's aren't needed on the HR23 either way, SWiM or not.....
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That's what I meant.....you are just more specific than me....
My point was that BBC's aren't needed on the HR23 either way, SWiM or not.....
this is a quote from tech bulletin from DTV
"BBCs are required on all non-SWiM jobs when an H24 (one BBC) or HR24 (two BBCs) is utilized."
NO!. I have a non-SWM installation and my HR23 does not require BBCs as it has the wide-band tuners. Re-read previous posts.
You are talking about the 23 series, which doesn't need the bbcs. They are talking about the 24 series, which does need them without the SWM.
I was referring to the tech bulletin quote about the HR24
I incorrectly interpreted the statement as being for all non-SWM installs not just HR24s. The HR24 reference was used as the exception.
OK,
It looks like what was mentioned earlier.
Any newer recvr other than the H23 series Does need the BBC's unless a SWM is involved.
It looks like what was mentioned earlier.
Any newer recvr other than the H23 series Does need the BBC's unless a SWM is involved.
h24/hr24 do not have built in b band converters like the hr23/h23
they are ment for swm installs where band conversters are not needed. h/hr24 have built in deca and nothing more.
they are ment for swm installs where band conversters are not needed. h/hr24 have built in deca and nothing more.
Why is this so hard ?
Any SWM setups do NOT need BBC's
Any H/HR23's Do NOT need BBC's
Anything else, NOT SWM, Needs BBC's
The HR24'sDo NOT have BBC's built in, therefore you still need them without a SWM set up.
Wrong. I have an HR24 sitting 10 feet from where I am now, I saw the installer install it. I saw the message that it needed BBCs, I saw the installer go the the truck and get the BBCs, I saw him install the BBCs, and I can see the 2 BBCs through the open-back shelf my HR24 is sitting on. I do not have an SWM and I need 2 BBCs, on 2 coax into the unit.
I don't get it either Jimbo...I don't understand how this thread has gone on as long as it has!
Maybe this info should be written up and placed in the Sticky for this type of info.
It's simple,
H24 & HR24 + SWM Head = No BBCs
H24 & HR24 + Non-SWM Head = BBCs
H23 & HR23 = No BBCs Ever
H21, HR21 & newer + Non-SWM Head = BBCs
H21, HR21 & newer + SWM Head = No BBCs
( Not that I don't think any recievers before the x21 series support SWM - So you're SOL if you have a SWM dish )
H24 & HR24 + SWM Head = No BBCs
H24 & HR24 + Non-SWM Head = BBCs
H23 & HR23 = No BBCs Ever
H21, HR21 & newer + Non-SWM Head = BBCs
H21, HR21 & newer + SWM Head = No BBCs
( Not that I don't think any recievers before the x21 series support SWM - So you're SOL if you have a SWM dish )
Even easier, the 23 series never needs the b band converter, the others need them if they aren't in a SWiM setup.
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