Full Screen Program Guide no longer an option - thanks Dish!

Thanks for the reply. So if the input is either 1080i or 1080p what happens? Clearly not dot by dot.

Yep. Just as 720p is not dot by dot on a 1080i/p set. Though, many 1080i sets just don't do 1:1 pixel mapping at all when it comes to 720p/1080p/i, because a lot of them are actually 768p.


As for the original topic: There's not really a whole lot to say, other than I agree, DISH shouldn't have removed the full screen guide option, and if you can't see all of the rows on the guide, then you have too much overscan and/or need to adjust your picture size/position, or in many cases, use 1:1 pixel mapping..
 
So, ....... dot by dot works on 1080I, is that what's called dotting the I? Sorry,,,,,
 
I want to say,

I think this thing is grotesque, stupid, ugly, unsightly and trivial.

I have always had my program guide set to display the maximum amount of information on one page and now, --this is like having a bucket put over my head.

Looking at the guide can be a refuge from not having to look at the moronic video. Now we don't even have that.
 
Yes, if the news show or something starts doing something stark raving asinine I ought to be able to just click up something for a minute until it gets over it, now I'm stuck with it unless I change the channel and that will just distract my train of thought if I'm interested in whatever the show might be up to in the next segment.

This isn't just a loss of an option, it's a loss of capability.
 
Yes, if the news show or something starts doing something stark raving asinine I ought to be able to just click up something for a minute until it gets over it, now I'm stuck with it unless I change the channel and that will just distract my train of thought if I'm interested in whatever the show might be up to in the next segment.

This isn't just a loss of an option, it's a loss of capability.

Mute the sound. Reorder your priorities. lol
 
Mute the sound. Reorder your priorities. lol

Thank you for trivializing something which isn't a priority to you, but may possibly be a royal PITA to others. I'm with ackbar 100%. Half the time when I'm changing the channel I'm trying to get away from something really obnoxious that just took over my screen. With a full-screen program guide, that was one button push. Now I not only have fewer choices per screen, I still have a thumbnail of the video and a full 100% of the sound I'm trying to get away from.

Just mute the sound, you say? I happen to have a very nice Denon AV receiver, and when I mute the sound I get a big black box on screen, right in the middle of the program guide, that tells me the audio is muted, which make using the guide even more frustrating. Therefore, to avoid that I have to hold down the volume control until it vanishes to silence, then I can use the program guide (at approx. 66% as effective as it was before, IMHO), before choosing a different channel, and then scrolling the volume back up to a comfortable level.

Let me repeat what those of us who don't like this change have been saying: This was working for us perfectly before! Dish decided that we shouldn't have a full-screen program guide any more and took it away from us! It wasn't broken, and they fixed it real good!
 
...may possibly be a royal PITA to others. ...
Or not. This thread has been a nice back and forth discussion about this change. But now that you have decreed that both you and ackbar feel it's important it must really be important and I'm glad you pointed out Dish's newest failure.

I've been losing sleep since they changed the colors of the Guides with no option to go back to way it has been for years. :rolleyes:
 
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This was working for us perfectly before! Dish decided that we shouldn't have a full-screen program guide any more and took it away from us! It wasn't broken, and they fixed it real good!

Here's DISH's explanation:

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Oh, the irony.
 
I'm just glad to see we're back on topic. Look guys, I agree that Dish probably should have kept the guide option with no video. Dish probably thought to themselves "Why would anyone want to have a guide without video? It's such a convenience to see and hear the show you're watching while checking to see what else is on later tonight." I honestly couldn't think of any reason why you would need/want to have a guide without the video, but after hearing all the reasons why, I'd have to agree that Dish should have kept the option with no video, even though probably 80% (and I'm just guessing here) just use the guide with the partial video on it anyway.
 
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Just mute the sound, you say? I happen to have a very nice Denon AV receiver, and when I mute the sound I get a big black box on screen, right in the middle of the program guide, that tells me the audio is muted, which make using the guide even more frustrating ...
OK. You're the one that should hit pause rather then mute. . Lol.
 
Another excellent use was to avoid having to look at some incredibly insipid commercial.
If you don't have the ability to (mentally) tune out the sound and tiny image up in the corner of an insipid commercial, then hit Pause.
 
Salti, please take a look at your recent responses. ackbar and I are expressing our disappointment at a change that Dish made which negatively impacted our user experience. Neither of us has suggested that everyone has a setup like ours, or that everyone should prefer the program guide full screen. I'm certainly not losing sleep over this, I'm just damned annoyed. You, on the other hand, are suggesting that (a) we shouldn't even want what used to work perfectly for us, that (b) your preferences are superior to ours, and (c) we are either being stupid or childish. In short, you are being patronizing and insulting. I'm more than willing to concede to you your own preferred way of using your Dish hardware; why are you not willing to grant the same to us? That's why they're called preferences, after all.
 
Salti, please take a look at your recent responses. ackbar and I are expressing our disappointment at a change that Dish made which negatively impacted our user experience. Neither of us has suggested that everyone has a setup like ours, or that everyone should prefer the program guide full screen. I'm certainly not losing sleep over this, I'm just damned annoyed. You, on the other hand, are suggesting that (a) we shouldn't even want what used to work perfectly for us, that (b) your preferences are superior to ours, and (c) we are either being stupid or childish. In short, you are being patronizing and insulting. I'm more than willing to concede to you your own preferred way of using your Dish hardware; why are you not willing to grant the same to us? That's why they're called preferences, after all.

If you haven't figured it out by now, Salti-Dawg is a Person you shouldn't waste your time with responding to. Try using your Ignore feature on this one and you won't have to waste any more time arguing with him. I know I did that very thing months ago.
 
Thank you for trivializing something which isn't a priority to you, but may possibly be a royal PITA to others. I'm with ackbar 100%. Half the time when I'm changing the channel I'm trying to get away from something really obnoxious that just took over my screen. With a full-screen program guide, that was one button push. Now I not only have fewer choices per screen, I still have a thumbnail of the video and a full 100% of the sound I'm trying to get away from.

Just mute the sound, you say? I happen to have a very nice Denon AV receiver, and when I mute the sound I get a big black box on screen, right in the middle of the program guide, that tells me the audio is muted, which make using the guide even more frustrating. Therefore, to avoid that I have to hold down the volume control until it vanishes to silence, then I can use the program guide (at approx. 66% as effective as it was before, IMHO), before choosing a different channel, and then scrolling the volume back up to a comfortable level.

Let me repeat what those of us who don't like this change have been saying: This was working for us perfectly before! Dish decided that we shouldn't have a full-screen program guide any more and took it away from us! It wasn't broken, and they fixed it real good!

Isn't there a menu setting in the Denon that gets rid of the black behind the volume display?
 

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