Fringe: Season 5

[riffjim4069]

Liberty/An Enemy of Fate: Friday, 18 January 2013 (8:00 PM ET)

Well, this is it folks...noticed the early start time since this is a two-hour special (Season 5 episodes 12 - Liberty and 13 - An Enemy of Fate).

"The team implements a plan as Olivia begins a dangerous journey into the unknown; the team battles the Observers."

Don't forget to rate this episode over at IMDb.com: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2411946/ and http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2411954/

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[MikeD-C05]

Are the observers even men? I know they look like men with their clothes on, but they may have just removed all sexual organs and with them all the emotions that can be induced.

IF you had a world where ORDER was the norm and you had all your emotions breed out of you by scientists , you would really have no need for women any more . They would only need them for the eggs to reproduce. They extract the eggs and add the semen , both from donors, add to the artificial wombs and viola : new observer . OF course for all we know they only keep them around like cattle for breeding , or they found away to clone eggs and they no longer need women at all. A world without emotions and women would be very plain and orderly or boring. That sure seems to be why they all dress alike and look like they are in uniform. My question is if they are from like 2667 or so, why do they pick the early 1960's business look for men? I guess everything old is new again.

 

[mike123abc]

My question is if they are from like 2667 or so, why do they pick the early 1960's business look for men? I guess everything old is new again.

Only reruns of Mad Men survived that long and they thought that is how people dressed?

 

[Bodo Fenrirsson]

I'll have to see how next week ends,but I was thinking............if sending the boy into the future alters the existence of the observers,then Peter in this universe still dies,but because there is no observer to interfere,Walternate is not distracted when he is making the cure for his Peter,is able to cure his Peter,& then there is no need for Walter to cross over to bring the "other" Peter over to his universe. There is no hole in the fabric of both universes,Peter marries Fauxlivia & they have Henry(from the original timeline) & Etta in the alternate universe. In this universe Olivia hooks up with Lincoln Lee.

Oh man,it just occurred to me,in the original timeline Peter & Fauxlivia had "Henry." in the altered timeline Peter & Olivia have "Henrietta(Etta)."

 

[riffjim4069]

Perhaps they can go back in time, wipe-out seasons 4-5, and do them right this time.

 

[MikeD-C05]

I'll have to see how next week ends,but I was thinking............if sending the boy into the future alters the existence of the observers,then Peter in this universe still dies,but because there is no observer to interfere,Walternate is not distracted when he is making the cure for his Peter,is able to cure his Peter,& then there is no need for Walter to cross over to bring the "other" Peter over to his universe. There is no hole in the fabric of both universes,Peter marries Fauxlivia & they have Henry(from the original timeline) & Etta in the alternate universe. In this universe Olivia hooks up with Lincoln Lee.

Oh man,it just occurred to me,in the original timeline Peter & Fauxlivia had "Henry." in the altered timeline Peter & Olivia have "Henrietta(Etta)."

I thought that they were only going to wipe out from 2015 on. The day of the invasion never happens and Peter and Olivia get to raise Etta from the child she was on. I didn't think that having the boy travel forward to 2162 would change the entire history of FRINGE going back to the original Walter /Peter story .

 

[teachsac]

I did. Going back to the beginning and not bringing Peter back, or if he does, no observer to save. While Olivia thinks that they will go back, I think Peter realized it won't happen. We'll see.

S~

 

[riffjim4069]

I did. Going back to the beginning and not bringing Peter back, or if he does, no observer to save. While Olivia thinks that they will go back, I think Peter realized it won't happen. We'll see.

S~

Maybe they'll go back all the way to before Walter punches a hole in both universes...

 

[Bodo Fenrirsson]

Maybe they'll go back all the way to before Walter punches a hole in both universes...

That's what I meant,without the observer interference,Walternate will be able to make the cure for his Peter & Walter won't have to go to the alternate universe to save him. Also,there most likely will be no Cortexiphan & Cortexiphan experiments,Nina Sharp won't have a bionic hand,& Walter's assistant won't die in a fire causing Walter to have to be committed to an asylum/mental institution. That kind of finality sort of kills the idea for a Fringe movie afterwards. Walter's Peter will still have died.

 

[Dah-Henny]

Wow...y'all are giving me a headache!

 

[MikeD-C05]

That's what I meant,without the observer interference,Walternate will be able to make the cure for his Peter & Walter won't have to go to the alternate universe to save him. Also,there most likely will be no Cortexiphan & Cortexiphan experiments,Nina Sharp won't have a bionic hand,& Walter's assistant won't die in a fire causing Walter to have to be committed to an asylum/mental institution. That kind of finality sort of kills the idea for a Fringe movie afterwards. Walter's Peter will still have died.

And Pam will wake up and see Bobby in the shower the next morning and she will realize that the entire series was all a dream......

 

[riffjim4069]

...That kind of finality sort of kills the idea for a Fringe movie afterwards.

The fact so few people tuned into the show the past two seasons kind of kills the movie idea. It certainly wouldn't attract an audience anywhere close to the size of an X-Files or even the 24 movie they are trying to make.

 

[Bodo Fenrirsson]

This is the logical direction the show should go if the boy does indeed go into the future to change the course of the observers,but most likely the show's creators will go in a direction where everyone(including Etta) lives happily ever after(maybe a new "compassionate" observer will lead Walter to discover a cure for his own Peter) & perhaps they'll create a slight cliffhanger that needs to be answered in a movie(remember how the Farscape series ended?).

 

[KAB]

The fact so few people tuned into the show the past two seasons kind of kills the movie idea.

For sure. Last week took a 20% dive from December 21.

 

[riffjim4069]

For sure. Last week took a 20% dive from December 21.

Yep, the only reason FOX brought this show back for a final half-season was to hit that magical 100-episode number in order to place the show into syndication, which started on SyFy this past fall. Heck, I would bet money that SyFy stipulated the 100-episodes prior to inking the deal. Of course, along the way FOX has probably reduced the budget for Fringe by 30-40%: Broyles and Nina were in few episodes, not a lot of special effects magic this season, few action scenes and not many things crashing or blowing up, scripts written by interns (well, that's how it seemed much of the season), etc. A real low-budget production IMO. Don't get me wrong...good programming doesn't have to cost a fortune, but we didn't get many good stories this season. Conversely, if the final double-episode is even someone good then, like a starving person feasting on gruel, we Fringe fans will eat it up and swear we were eating steak. We shall see.

 

[riffjim4069]

‘Fringe’ series finale spoilers

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"It’s a bittersweet feeling heading into the series final of “Fringe” airing on Friday night. From one standpoint, it is more than understandable to be overjoyed for the fact that we are likely going to have one of the most incredible episodes of the show airing in days. There will be questions answered, some great performances, and some special effects that really pushed the budget beyond its limits.

Conversely, this is also the series finale, and with every bit of excitement you have there is still a bit of sadness over the fact that we are never going to see Peter, Olivia, or any of these other characters on TV ever again. It is not going to be easy to say goodbye, especially when you remember that this has really been without a doubt one of the strongest seasons of the show thus far."

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Offhand, I think this guy is smoking something when he said, "this has really been without a doubt one of the strongest seasons of the show thus far." :hippie:

 

[riffjim4069]

Fringe Series Finale Promo

 

[MikeD-C05]

CAN'T WAIT to see it!!

 

[primestar31]

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Offhand, I think this guy is smoking something when he said, "this has really been without a doubt one of the strongest seasons of the show thus far." :hippie:

Translation: "Even I can smell the *hit!"

 

[riffjim4069]

To quite Danny DeVito as he sang to Arnold Schwarzenegger in the movie Twins, "Tonight is your night bro."

Series Finale tonight!