You forgot to mention that SatelliteGuys member tvropro (Glen) was the one that got this Map Master stuff rolling and it is based on the 4 Play software. Check it out by doing a search of the archives here on SatelliteGuys.
Glen did start out and offered a place for development of the program in a private setting. Glen did not develop the program and there was only one programmer who created the Map Master Program.
I created those maps and while Glen did put in a little help it was nothing in comparison to what I had stumbled upon and figured out, so I know all too well exactly what is in those maps and they would not be in there if it was not for my direct work in this.
Did Glen map out the DC2 signals up there? NO, I did.
Did Glen figure out the guide info ? No, I did.
Did Glen even give an opinion on the naming of the sat tiles used in the maps? NO! I did that work myself.
All he did was to take everyone else's work and try claiming it as his own or to spout off how he spent $100,000 in getting this done, which is so laughable but those who really konw it is just another lie by glen. Pity one has to lie so much.
Glen also does offer install service and has the most complete set of maps for 4DTV receivers and the guys that released the free Map Master worked with Glen. The free version is still in beta testing stage so "do it your selfers" just be careful because it does have issues.
The most complete set of maps? Beta stage ?
Are you just repeating something you have no clue about or where is your proof sir?
First off, I do not have to defend something that is out there for FREE for any one who wants to create their own maps for their receivers and people are giving a choice at this time of the mappings from Jan 3, 2011 or the new ones which has everything in them.
Oh that's right, you did not see the email from glen to the programmer when he saw those maps! He was ticked off that the maps had everything in them and he could no longer bilk the people out of money by his deceptive practices.
Besides that I have heard from several people who did re-do their own maps by themselves and now if something changes such as a Frequency, or satellite change on a DC2 mux are you going to pay again and again to have those channels re-mapped in or do it yourself ?
If you send a receiver to a shop they have the equipment to make sure the install goes well..
Oh now that's a real understatement from someone whop has no clue as to the real truth!
Did you know sir how many batteries he installed that were not done properly?
I already had to send one of my 922's that Glen Tech installed a battery in back in November to ATS Electronics because of it acting up on me. ATS Electronics had to replace the battery in May due to the shoddy workmanship of the previous battery installer which would be Glen Tech. How many more of these are out there now?
I may sound a bit harsh on Glen but many people do not know the real truth.
1) Glen took any donations he received and used it on himself not the map program which is morally wrong and they could also be legal implications there and that is being looked into.
2) Glen first touted that this program would be free to the people and that is what everyone involved agreed to, no one did this to allow one person to take the program and make a living off of it due to their desperate situation; then he discouraged it's release to the public and held the program hostage while he continued to use the program to make a living off of it.
3) Glen then came out not only discouraging it's use to anyone else then started making up lies and more lies to try keeping people away from restoring their own maps. Well if it is so bad then how is it that I have several receivers with the maps in them and they work GREAT and other people who have used the program are NOT complaining that they do not have to spend well over a $100.00 to get maps in their receivers.
So are you going to trust a Liar and a Thief ?
Do you want to know what else he has stolen ?
You really want me to make that public ?
Dishman Dan, you may not have been aware of things that were going on but your post is so out of line here especially the beta testing stage that your only spouting things directly from glen.
Will the program ever be finished? Not if anyone who uses it and wants to see if it can go further asks for more things to do with it. IMO that is not beta that is just taking a program and using it to it's fullest potential.
Want to know why ATS Electronics was selected to be the only Authorized map restorer?
Their reputation is outstanding.
Their code of conduct goes without saying.
They understand these receivers and know their work.
In all the years they have been in business there has not been one negative thing said about them, and they have been around for many years!
So the choice is your.
Want to do it yourself then the program is out there for you to do it yourself and no more shipping out your receiver to someone else.
Want to Use ATS Electronics? A reputable business with a proven track record and who have their ethics intact!
Or do you want to use a know liar and a thief as Glen Tech has proven themselves to be ?
The choice is yours.
Oh By the way, I would not have posted this until I saw your post and felt your post really needed some truth in there for a change.
We did not come out attacking glen, glen came out attacking people who used the Map Master program then would spread lies and untruths about the programmer and the map writer. Only after he did that did we come out letting people know more of the truth but there is still some out there we have not mentioned yet and when that goes public I doubt Glen would be able to keep his own home as the IRS may be really interested in his activities the way he is doing things these days!