Forget the BCS "Playoff", here's what I would do with College Football
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12 team playoff like they do in Division 1-AA and D2
top 4 get 1st round bye. The rest is decided by the polls
higher seed gets the home game until maybe semi's or final
top 4 get 1st round bye. The rest is decided by the polls
higher seed gets the home game until maybe semi's or final
I corrected myself, the total number of games would be 17 for College teams THAT GET TO THE CHAMPIONSHIP GAME. It would still be 12 for most others, 13 games for 32 teams, 14 games for 16 teams, 15 games for 8 teams (what I thought the regular season was), 16 games for 4 teams. 17 games for 2 teams. This is the SAME as some states for high schools. (most states are 15 - 10 regular and 5 post-season).
The learning process argument is ridiculous. Any college program worth its salt practices the same number of hours and weeks whether or not they are on the field playing the game for real. There are unbelievably strict NCAA guidelines and we aren't talking about changing any of these. We are just talking about having an honest-to-goodness championship series that is not based on some one's vote!
Say what you will about any computer ranking, but no matter what the system, it judges each and every team by the exact same criteria. There is no bias. The computer can't "like" a team. The best computer ranking systems are the ones "no one" likes because the only way to come out on top is to play a tough schedule against teams that also have a tough schedule. Then the play-off system evens out the top 8 quickly with the top-ranked teams playing the bottom ranked teams. I can tell you that in Ohio where we use the Harbin system, the top ranked teams are nearly ALWAYS the ones to make it to the regional finals. In the last 10 years I have been following high school football here, there has been only 3 "#8" upsets in 4 regions, 6 divisions. That is 3 times in 240 brackets. I'd say that is pretty darned accurate vs. coaches' polls where it's like a 60% accuracy rate. Only once did a #8 ranked regional team make it to the state final and they got KILLED. Most lopsided state game ever.
Yes there is a human element in programming the computer rankings, but everyone knows the criteria ahead of time and everyone plays by exactly the same rules. I'll keep promoting the Harbin system. Complicated as it is, it works. It's proven itself over and over and over again.
I think that it makes the regular season by and large irrelevant.
A smaller playoff, a "plus one" still gives a play in for the championship, and keeps the regular season games relevant.
A smaller playoff, a "plus one" still gives a play in for the championship, and keeps the regular season games relevant.
Computers can't factor in blown referee calls, balls hitting uprights, blizzard conditions, etc. Human intervention is needed for these type of things.
so? Each team has the same refs, each team has the same uprights, each team has the same weather conditions etc etc....
I don't understand if you were responding to me. How does it make the season irrelevant? The only way to get to this type of playoff is to win during the regular season. Not only that you have to win againt good teams with good records. Your conference record wouldn't matter. That is true. But who cares if you are the conference champion in a conference where everyone you played has an 0-fer season? Being conference champion should in no way put you on top overall. By the same token if you are #2 in your conference but you beat every great team except the #1 and every team beat you beat defeated every other great team they played during the regular season, why should you be denied because you are in a tough conference?
Really?!?? so when each team comes on they have their own refs...ok the laws of physics has failed me once again
I say over a 12 week season, refs, weather, and other factors are pretty much canceled out. The other point is that both team playing in the game are subject to the conditions. If you lose, you lose. If you win, you win. Simple. The excuse factor does nothing but allow for bias.
If I am not mistaken, there are several games a day. No way the SAME refs, using the SAME judgement calls can call each game.
I wont even get into the weather aspect.
Physics no, your brain, yes. You said the teams have the "same" refs. No they don't. There are several teams of referees out there. Say one ref blows a call in a very important game, how does the computer factor that in? It can't because it doesn't know this happened.
I concur with Smith about the weather comment.
Exactly, it goes by the rigid standards of its programming, and that is not always the best way to go about it.
Yes, if I am not mistaken, they still use the old H type, everyone else has the newer Y type.
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