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Why the FCC's Got AT&T and Verizon Scared Shitless - Feature - Gizmodo


Remember net neutrality? Over a year after Comcast's torrent-killing ways turned it into a rallying cry for chest-slapping geek solidarity, it's back. But this time, it's got AT&T and Verizon scared shitless—and it might actually screw us over.

A quick refresher: Net neutrality is, simply, the principle that all data gets treated the same by an ISP or service, whether it's incoming email or HD videos of dudes getting socked in the nuts by a 4-year-old on YouTube. A real-world example of very non-neutral behavior would be what got Comcast slapped by the FCC: specifically sabotaging torrents.

Theoretically, this could go beyond policing piracy, for instance if, say, Time Warner competitively blocked or slowed down Hulu, or if Verizon struck a deal with Google to give its data priority over traffic from Bing, so people using Google would get a way better experience than people using Bing. Streaming video is a not-so-coincidental theoretical example, since the explosion of video traffic is what the ISPs say is swallowing up all of the internet.

The end result of the threat of government-mandated net neutrality regulations for ISPs was a mixed "win" for consumers: AT&T, Comcast and Time Warner all responded with monthly data caps on their internet service.

As for the FCC telling ISPs to be more explicit about network management practices, Comcast started straight-up telling people heavy internet users would have their entire connections slowed down. While they suck for consumers, these are all "net neutral" practices, since no particular kind of data is discriminated against. The net neutrality debate fizzled down, though in some ways people were worse off than before.

With a new president, comes a new FCC chair, Julian Genachowski. Unlike his predecessor, who regularly reamed the cable industry but was a little too snuggly with the telecoms and against "hard and fast" net-neutrality rules, Genachowski is all about rules for everybody. Including the wireless carriers.

As you're probably well aware, mobile broadband is treated way differently than the internet that's piped into your house. It's considered fragile. There's far less of it to go around, with a less developed infrastructure and limited wireless spectrum to use. The rules for using it are tighter, like dating a nun. Restrictions abound, like no p2p. You don't want the network to break, after all. That's why, for instance, AT&T previously blocked Skype and SlingPlayer from running on 3G on the iPhone—and continues to block Sling—and why Apple rejects every torrent app that even tries to cross into the App Store.

In the past weeks, Genachowski has made it clear that he thinks that should change, that openness should "apply to the Internet however accessed." He's not saying they shouldn't be able to manage the network to make sure it runs smoothly, to be clear. But if you were scratching your head about why AT&T conceded and opened their network up to VoIP on the iPhone, look no further than this nugget from Genachowski, from a speech he gave three weeks ago:

We've already seen some clear examples of deviations from the Internet's historic openness. We have witnessed certain broadband providers unilaterally block access to VoIP applications (phone calls delivered over data networks)..."

AT&T very much does not want the government to tell it how to run its networks, particularly the mobile one. AT&T Mobility CEO Ralph de la Vega this week responded pretty clearly to the FCC's plans:

"Before we begin ‘fixing' what isn't broken, we need to be thoughtful about the consequences. We believe the marketplace today is vibrant, and there is no need to burden the mobile Internet with onerous new regulations."

So what's going to happen?

Well, the FCC is clear about what it thinks. This week, at a wireless telecom conference, Genachowski reiterated that net neutrality should apply to mobile broadband too. If those regulations pass, we'll likely see the same thing we saw with the landline providers: Caps and "transparent" network management. Goodbye unlimited mobile broadband. You will pay for every ounce of data that you use. And if you're "crowding" the network by downloading a bunch of stuff, you're gonna get slowed down because that's the easy "net neutral" way to keep users in check. How much better is that, really?

So iPhone users, enjoy your "unlimited" wireless connections now. Pay-per-byte data—for both wired and wireless broadband networks—may well be the road we're going down. Verizon is the last major landline broadband provider who has held back from capping or throttling its services (looove my FiOS), but even its CTO says that eventually, "we are going to reach a point where we will sell packages of bytes."

Hopefully those packages will come cheap.
 
Caps and "transparent" network management. Goodbye unlimited mobile broadband.


Wait just a GD minute! How old is this article? Haven't we had 5Gb limits on mobile data plans for over a year now? "Unlimited" means 5Gb limit in mobile provider speak.


There are caps on consumer Comcast ISP and there are FCC mandated caps on all mobile 3G data plans. The only non-capped data plan for mobile is Sprint's 4G which is not covered under the FCC rule.

As for Comcast, all low priced consumer contracts are capped at 250Gb per month. But, if you need more, then upgrade to a commercial account for $99 and have unlimited plus a whole host of other benefits, like an AE to handle your support issues, a special 800# to call in for service and finally 24 hour response and guaranteed up recovery in the event of an outage. With the consumer service, you'll wait for an hour or more to schedule a service call and that will happen sometime in 2-3 weeks.
 
Wait just a GD minute! How old is this article? Haven't we had 5Gb limits on mobile data plans for over a year now? "Unlimited" means 5Gb limit in mobile provider speak.


There are caps on consumer Comcast ISP and there are FCC mandated caps on all mobile 3G data plans. The only non-capped data plan for mobile is Sprint's 4G which is not covered under the FCC rule.

As for Comcast, all low priced consumer contracts are capped at 250Gb per month. But, if you need more, then upgrade to a commercial account for $99 and have unlimited plus a whole host of other benefits, like an AE to handle your support issues, a special 800# to call in for service and finally 24 hour response and guaranteed up recovery in the event of an outage. With the consumer service, you'll wait for an hour or more to schedule a service call and that will happen sometime in 2-3 weeks.


5GB caps are on Tethering, broadband cards both internal and external. There is no 5GB cap on Verizon Smartphone.


As for the article, some of it on the iphone pay per byte came from Slate Wants You To Pay More For iPhone Data - Author thinks he's helping, but doesn't understand the sector... - dslreports.com
 
It will be interesting to see how this all plays out. Some think that the FCC will not be able to enforce net neutrality on the wireless carriers since the carriers bought the airwaves at auction without restrictions on them.
 
Alltel never had a cap. That will probably change on the 17th of this month when Alltel is officially merged into Verizon Wireless and the name Alltel is gone.
 
One thing I love about Cellular South. No 5gb limit on data. Unlimited means unlimited.

They do offer some capped plans as well as unlimited.
 
Does T-Mobile have enough speed to even hit 5Gb, or even 10Gb? Last I heard they couldn't do more than 130 kbps. What data transfer would you be doing to use 10 Gb a month at the speeds of 130 kbps.

Update me!
 
Maybe they can have a higher limit at 10 GB since not as many people are on their network? lol. Limits are put in place when companies oversubscribe their network and/or when more bandwidth is needed now than what used to be needed such as more video online.
 

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