The pros and cons of 3D. When a 3D (or any channel) channel is slated to close, it is only natural to discuss why it's closing. In a pro-format forum, the cons could/would be considered trolling.
ESPN 3D Shutting Down at Years End
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The main reason I started the thread here was for the Dish customers that have 3D TVS and always wanted Dish to get ESPN 3D. Thought everyone would like to know that you will no longer be missing out and Dish may have had good reason not to carry that channel.
Everyone I talked to said the 3-D for Man of Steel was terrible. I don't hate 3-D, nor do I own a 3-D TV but if Disney sees no future in it then 3-D usage must be terribly low when it comes to subscription TV.
A problem I see with a lot of these 3D movies coming out is they were not shot in 3D... but instead were converted to 3D, so its not real 3D but pseudo 3D.
I think if your seeing a 3D movie in a theater then it should have been shot in 3D.
I think if your seeing a 3D movie in a theater then it should have been shot in 3D.
Very true about converted 3D movies. It's much much easier to shoot a animated movie in 3D because the effects are all computer generated. I watched
Fright Night" last week and even though it was converted it was very nice. In the 3D re-release of Jurassic Park they spent 9 months converting the movie. I've yet to see it but I expect it to look excellent. I have not seen any of the newer 3D releases at theaters but the reviews are pretty good, The Lone Ranger, Star Trek Into Darkness, The Great Gatsby, Iron Man 3, Man of Steel, Monsters University, World War Z.
Fright Night" last week and even though it was converted it was very nice. In the 3D re-release of Jurassic Park they spent 9 months converting the movie. I've yet to see it but I expect it to look excellent. I have not seen any of the newer 3D releases at theaters but the reviews are pretty good, The Lone Ranger, Star Trek Into Darkness, The Great Gatsby, Iron Man 3, Man of Steel, Monsters University, World War Z.
"......I'd much prefer a true-to-life picture with a high bit rate than to waste bandwidth on 3D."
Our eyes see 3d everyday. 3D is true to life. Your current 2D tv is not true to life. It is a technology limitation. 2D computer aided design is now antiquated. 3D modeling is where reality is. Even in war zones they need 3D modelling to aim correctly.
Our eyes see 3d everyday. 3D is true to life. Your current 2D tv is not true to life. It is a technology limitation. 2D computer aided design is now antiquated. 3D modeling is where reality is. Even in war zones they need 3D modelling to aim correctly.
Forgive me Scott, but for the life of me, I don't see why the 3D forum can't be frequented by those who want to discuss it NEGATIVELY, as well as positively. If some people hate it (and I don't know who that might be) for their own reasons, that's simply their opinion, and IMHO not a reason to close the thread and declare them "haters". That's just name calling, and avoiding the issue. I don't know this but I will guess. The people posting negative comments in the 3D forum vastly outnumber those posting positive comments, and the 3D lovers can't stand being outnumbered or facing the fact that 3D isn't as great, or as popular, as they think it is.
Didn't stop the ridicule of Charlie and Dish though... Who thinks that any from that crowd will acknowledge that Charlie/Dish was right ?
I was really hoping that ESPN 3D was going to be added to Dish with the new contract that will be signed before September.
So a catch 22 has been created. (Well almost this thread still open) Can't post negative in a thread devoted to 3D and not supposed to start one in Dish forum for Dish subscribers to debate. SATGUYS is one of the best when comes to this so I can't get too excited over it but letting only posts pro 3D is very perplexing. So what if Dish never had Espn 3D since there are virtually no 3D channels anywhere (which should be a clue to the debate) it's only natural it would be discussed here.
I enjoy 3D at the theater, but I'd just be happy if someone would make some sort of clip-on 3D glasses for use at the movie theathers. I wear prescription eyeglasses, and trying to wear IMAX or Real3D glasses over my regular eyeglasses is a major PITA. Even when I get them situated the best I can, I get an extra glare as light bounces off my eyeglass lenses back to the backside of the 3D lenses.
The Krell, you have such a nice pool.
You mind of I come over and pee in it?
Same thing.
Each forum here is to help people learn more and get the most from their equipment. It is not a place to come and just crap on things because you don't like them.
If you want to dump on 3D feel free to do it in the Chit Chat Forum.
You mind of I come over and pee in it?
Same thing.
Each forum here is to help people learn more and get the most from their equipment. It is not a place to come and just crap on things because you don't like them.
If you want to dump on 3D feel free to do it in the Chit Chat Forum.
The Krell, you have such a nice pool.
You mind of I come over and pee in it?
Same thing.
Each forum here is to help people learn more and get the most from their equipment. It is not a place to come and just crap on things because you don't like them.
If you want to dump on 3D feel free to do it in the Chit Chat Forum.
Scott, seriously then can we apply that to the Dish threads - no peeing, no negative comments? Ditto the Direct TV threads? If you want to be negative about Dish or Direct do it in the Chit Chat thread? I personally think dissenting views are needed in the forums, letting threads of only positive (or I suppose negative) posts seems very counterproductive. I have learned from people who are negative about Dish, or about any subject and have modified my own views because of it.
No.
There is a big difference between talking about DISH and then a separate technology forum and trashing that technology.
Going to the DISH forum and writing why you have issues with DISH is different then going to the 3D forum and just writing 3D sucks.
In the DISH forum you are helping other, but as far as 3D goes, saying 3D sucks adds nothing to the topic. People know if they like 3D or not already, that forum is there to support those with 3D equipment. Again telling them 3D sucks adds nothing to the conversation.
As I said if you want to discuss that you think 3D sucks then feel free to in the Chit Chat forum, not the 3D Support forum. I am sure there could be some good conversation on 3D including 3D sucks. But lets keep the 3D Support forum for 3D support. That is all.
There is a big difference between talking about DISH and then a separate technology forum and trashing that technology.
Going to the DISH forum and writing why you have issues with DISH is different then going to the 3D forum and just writing 3D sucks.
In the DISH forum you are helping other, but as far as 3D goes, saying 3D sucks adds nothing to the topic. People know if they like 3D or not already, that forum is there to support those with 3D equipment. Again telling them 3D sucks adds nothing to the conversation.
As I said if you want to discuss that you think 3D sucks then feel free to in the Chit Chat forum, not the 3D Support forum. I am sure there could be some good conversation on 3D including 3D sucks. But lets keep the 3D Support forum for 3D support. That is all.
OK, I posted a "3D sucks" thread in the Chit Chat Club, even though I don't believe it. That is because I want to know the good as well as the bad, or I can't make an informed decision about taking the 3D plunge.
IMHO the closure of threads and prohibited discussion has gone WAY beyond just those who post "3D sucks" and nothing else. Closures include news reports, and discussion of news reports, and some very informative (to me) threads that I wish had continued. I for one do not have a 3D TV, nor a 3D Bluray Disk player, but I have had some fabulous experiences with 3D in theaters, and I wonder when I should take the plunge. I guess I'll have to go off-site to find the unvarnished truth.
IMHO the closure of threads and prohibited discussion has gone WAY beyond just those who post "3D sucks" and nothing else. Closures include news reports, and discussion of news reports, and some very informative (to me) threads that I wish had continued. I for one do not have a 3D TV, nor a 3D Bluray Disk player, but I have had some fabulous experiences with 3D in theaters, and I wonder when I should take the plunge. I guess I'll have to go off-site to find the unvarnished truth.
This isn't quite what I was hoping this thread to turn into. It was more so just to let Dish customers, who are 3D enthusiast, know that they will no longer be missing out on one of the 3D channels they hoped Dish would get.
