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A lot better then Hughes.StarLink.
A lot better then Hughes.StarLink.
Not necessarily true.Nobody really knows what that is like
Probably not without the funding to develop a Hopper 4. The Plus is working MUCH better since it was redeployed last month.Maybe if it was better executed it could have been a winner. NOW- is an improved version under development? A new clean sheet design? A super duper Hopper 4? Or has the towel has been thrown in?
I’d like Dish to survive, and keep me subscribed. But it’ll have to get more content back. Questionable.
I don’t hear a fat lady singing, but is that a swan singing?
A Hopper 4 would do nothing to stop the Churn, in our age of Cell Phone, Tablets, Streaming Boxes, a set top box is considered old fashioned.Probably not without the funding to develop a Hopper 4. The Plus is working MUCH better since it was redeployed last month.
The push for Jupiter 3 is new. Although it's been deployed since summer, Hughes has only recently begun training installers and managers on the process of installation.Except Hughes has been losing subs in every quarter , for example, 57,000 in Q3, 59,000 in Q4, no different then when you have a new install for Dish TV, one new but 2 left.
As competition increases in those under served areas, more and more will leave.
As I have pointed out, I live in a rural area, they did not get Broadband until 2018, 2 years before we moved here, while back in Michigan, lived in Metro areas, had broadband since 1996 ( a mighty 3 down/1 up then).
Hughes, with Jupiter 3, cut pricing and doubled data capacity. The most popular package is up to 100 Gb/s streaming at $64 per month the first year and then $84 per month after that. There's an Elite Package with Fusion, which I think was up to 200 Gb/s that's $79 the first year and then $109 after that.It's better than dial up, but that's it. Since satellite internet is still around, I can only assume its gotten better, but it does seem to be expensive.
Only because if it wasn't illegal, I wouldn't have a job. And that's a fact.Which is stealing and 100% wrong.
And a lot more expensive, although has I explained above, "a lot better" is maybe not so accurateA lot better then Hughes.
That's a fact!!A Hopper 4 would do nothing to stop the Churn, in our age of Cell Phone, Tablets, Streaming Boxes, a set top box is considered old fashioned.
Not a fair comparison, since you do not say what the speed is at work.I can tell you we have J3 w/Fusion at the office and you can't really tell the difference between that and the Comcast we also have installed another than a slight, very slight delay in browsing websites and opening new web pages. I stream YT on our Hopper 3 before meetings and it's fine. No buffering at all.
Read the above post, only the first year is cheaper, Lease Cost added up in 30 Months would be the same as the equipment cost from Star Link.And a lot more expensive, although has I explained above, "a lot better" is maybe not so accurate
I'm not going to deny those things and I'll do a speed test next time I'm in the office.Not a fair comparison, since you do not say what the speed is at work.
And how well would that speed (says on their website up to 100Mbps) would do in a family home where everyone is streaming at the same time, specially if one of the kids is gaming.
Then this-200 GB Priority Data, which is basically a data cap, because they slow you down if you hit this, then this from the Website-
The more connected devices you have, the quicker you will consume your Priority Data. Hughesnet is not recommended as a full-time video streaming replacement for TV service or console-based gaming activities because they quickly consume your Priority Data.
By the way, I hit 200GBs in less then a week.
From the fine print at the bottom-
*Standard Data may be slower than other traffic during high-traffic periods.
So you go offer the 200GBs, then might slow you down even more.
Then you go into the Lease Cost, which after a little more then 2 years, is the same as the equipment costs of Star Link, which is a lot faster, no data restrictions and the same price after the first year of Hughes.
The 2nd year is $20 more. I said that in the post. After 2 years, like with Dish, I'm willing to bet a phone call can solve thatRead the above post, only the first year is cheaper, Lease Cost added up in 30 Months would be the same as the equipment cost from Star Link.
Yeah, I'm in a two year agreement also. I'd assume if they go belly up on not be able to deliver the services I signed up for, my agreement for service is over and I look for alternatives. I'm a 20+ year subscriber also, back in the days where you installed your own dish and wiring yourself. Biggest thing I would hate to lose is the service I get with my RV. So easy to put out my Tailgater and 211Z receiver and watch the same programming that I get at home. Campground wireless sucks and cell phone service is always a toss of the dice dependent upon what part of the county you are in.Sorry but in Chapter 11 or receivership contracts are null and void.
...if they go belly up on not be able to deliver the services...
In simple terms, the problems with business bankruptcies is who holds the debt, since most of Dish’s debt is held by bonds, those bond holders get first dibs at the assets ( so to get paid), so in Chapter 11, Dish will have to get them to agree to new terms, which is hard to do now, easier in Chapter 11, but with tons of risks.Let's discuss that possibility. Is it one? Would DISH really just close up shop? For those more educated on the matter than me (i.e., most), what are the worst case, best case and most probable case scenarios?
I said the same thing. Boost was not a good investment since we have had cell phones for about 20 years now. Trying to start a complete cell phone network by scratch and compete with established cell phone companies was a bad idea. If Charlie is smart he will sell some of that bandwith to generate cash, but he will most likely do a restructured bankruptcy. Satellite is now a dying industry. With broadband being spread through the country with the Infrastructure act it is a matter of time before satellite goes completely under.True, but also losing subscribers, down to 2.06 Million.
YTTV has won the streaming Paid Live TV battle already, in just 7 years, it has hit 8 million subscribers, by the end of Q1 or Q2/2024, it will have more then Dish and Sling added together.
And no, I do not have YTTV.
By the way, I believe strongly that Dish could of easily outlasted DirecTV, even bought them, if they did not have their 5G Money Pit, which is still not generating income, but it did add over $20 Billion of debt to the money.
Taking over Boost was a mistake also, no one considered it to be a top service, even before Dish took it over.
That money it has been generating shrank last year by $1.6 Billion, this year is expected to be more, hence why AT&T is putting their 70% share up for sale, the first year they were allowed to do so.AT&T effectively got rid of the shrinking satellite tv business with a writedown and spin off and sale but avoided the bankruptcy issues facing Echostar. They say they are quite happy with the money their share of the spinoff is generating.