Echostar 23 Relocates to 110W

[DishSubLA]

OK, glad to hear that. A wise move Dish. The birds there are getting old, but they could hang in longer than they were designed for, but I think they have been operated at levels that can shorten the life to LESS than ideal.

 

[nelson61]

Echostar 23 will arrive at the 109.9W location later today or early tomorrow.

Presently at 109.7W
If the uplink report shows a flurry of transponder changes for the 110W slot during the next couple of weeks, it may be related to moving some channels to the new satellite.

 

[pattykay]

If the uplink report shows a flurry of transponder changes for the 110W slot...

What uplink report?

 

[nelson61]

What uplink report?

I had not noticed it is inactive

 

[Bobby]

I had not noticed it is inactive

It has been for many weeks.

 

[pattykay]

It has been for many weeks.

Yes, and James Long specifically said not to ask about it. From the final post in last month's Uplink Activity thread on that other forum:
"The Uplink Activity capture system is currently down.
No restoration date is known.

Please do not ask."

Has anyone asked James about it anyway?
(I would ask him myself, but I don't want to risk ticking him off again.)

 

[MikeD-C05]

Yes, and James Long specifically said not to ask about it. From the final post in last month's Uplink Activity thread on that other forum:
"The Uplink Activity capture system is currently down.
No restoration date is known.

Please do not ask."

Has anyone asked James about it anyway?
(I would ask him myself, but I don't want to risk ticking him off again.)

I haven't had that toxic problem since I left DBSTAlk website years ago. What a character he is.

 

[pattykay]

I haven't had that toxic problem since I left DBSTAlk website years ago. What a character he is.

Actually, James Long has not been posting that much lately in their General DISH Discussion forum, which seems unusual for a "Super Moderator." Is everyone sure that James is still okay?

 

[MikeD-C05]

Actually, James Long has not been posting that much lately in their General DISH Discussion forum, which seems unusual for a "Super Moderator." Is everyone sure that James is still okay?

Maybe Karma caught up with him. After all justice rides a slow horse but it does eventually come in.

 

[pattykay]

I did a little more digging on James Long's uplink site. In the fine print at the bottom of the individual pages that list channels by transponder (for example) it shows the last update as 5/6/2022 at around 2:50 AM. (Previously, these pages were updated each morning around 6:00 AM Eastern.) This is in spite of the fact that the uplink capture system has been down since 4/22/2022. Is it possible that James is still updating those pages about once per week? It is just that we would have to go in and manually look for any changes ourselves (comparing to an older saved version) rather than having an automatic uplink report generated to tell us what the changes are.

 

[nelson61]

James has a really great site that has taken a lot of his time to keep it in top notch shape. Information not available anywhere else.

I wish him well and hope he returns.

 

[pattykay]

What uplink report?

Update: Today, all I get on James's uplink site is "Error establishing a database connection." So now, we cannot even access the archive of older uplinks.

I am not sure if this means that he is fixing the uplink site, or if it is gone for good.

Individual satellite pages still work. (For now?) Here is the relevant page for the 110 satellite, last updated 5/6/2022:

DISH Network Channels by Transponder (Unofficial Listing)

 

[pattykay]

Update: Today, all I get on James's uplink site is "Error establishing a database connection." So now, we cannot even access the archive of older uplinks.

Okay, the uplink site is now back to the same "system down" (since April 22, 2022) message that it had before. The archive is back. Still not sure what happened to the site this morning, though.

 

[CostaRicaGuy]

Nothing has changed in that orbital slot "110w".
Whatever satellites (echostar10, echostar11) are on slot 110w, still main transponder 12399v21500 is pretty weak.
Once newly built Echostar 23 "kicks in", signal strength should go, new transponders will pop up.
10 foot ku band off-set satellite dish antenna pointed at 110w. Central America.
I saw the echostar 23 footprint (which was meant for Brazil) and it should be great for this part of the region.
Crossing my fingers.

 

[CostaRicaGuy]

Echostar 23 is back.
I can see it at orbital location 110 degrees West.
3 meter satellite dish.

 

[nelson61]

Interesting. At 110w only Echostar 23 should have reception in Costa Rico. And way smaller than 3 meter for reception. Maybe something like 1.2 meter

Makes one wonder if they forgot to file activation with FCC

From their license

"Further, while the satellite is maintained as an in￾orbit spare, all transponders other than the TT&C transponders will be switched off. In the event
the communications payload is activated, DISH will notify the Commission that it has activated the payload on the satellite. "

There is no notification in the FCC echostar 23 archive.

 

[ethanlerma]

Interesting. At 110w only Echostar 23 should have reception in Costa Rico

Makes one wonder if they forgot to file activation with FCC

From their license

"Further, while the satellite is maintained as an in￾orbit spare, all transponders other than the TT&C transponders will be switched off. In the event
the communications payload is activated, DISH will notify the Commission that it has activated the payload on the satellite. "

There is no notification in the FCC echorstar 23 archive.

I actually noticed a few weeks ago that satbeams.com had uploaded a E23 coverage map here and claimed it to be active, so I was wondering if they got that info from an FCC filing, but after searching for one I did not find anything.

Echostar 23 is back.
I can see it at orbital location 110 degrees West.
3 meter satellite dish.

How good is that compared to E11? I'm guessing you were getting 30dBw or less from it before, if the beam info above is accurate it should be 44dBw-ish now so even a 3ft/1m might cut it.

 

[nelson61]

Dug in another system and found the activation. It is live.

Pursuant to Condition 4 of the above-referenced license to operate EchoStar 23 at 109.9° W.L.,
EchoStar BSS Corporation hereby notifies the Commission that it will begin customer service
using the EchoStar 23 satellite as soon as February 15, 2023. EchoStar 23 has been operating as
an in-orbit spare. Following the transition, both the EchoStar 23 and EchoStar 10 satellites will
be providing the DISH DBS service from the nominal 110⁰ W.L. location.

 

[ethanlerma]

Dug in another system and found the activation. It is live.

Pursuant to Condition 4 of the above-referenced license to operate EchoStar 23 at 109.9° W.L.,
EchoStar BSS Corporation hereby notifies the Commission that it will begin customer service
using the EchoStar 23 satellite as soon as February 15, 2023. EchoStar 23 has been operating as
an in-orbit spare. Following the transition, both the EchoStar 23 and EchoStar 10 satellites will
be providing the DISH DBS service from the nominal 110⁰ W.L. location.

No mention of E11, so its either getting retired or moved to 129. Doubt the latter since Ciel2 is the same age, unless its to save money from not needing to lease Ciel anymore?

 

[nelson61]

The Costa Rica reception is somewhat unique in that the Conus beam has a secondary locus covering Puerto Rico and the Virgin Islands. That lobe extends westward and covers Costa Rica and Panama.