Are some locals not still on E12/R1? I thought they were still using it for something? I know its had some problems in the past.
Echostar 18 Launch Approx 4:15 EDT June 18 2016
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Are some locals not still on E12/R1? I thought they were still using it for something? I know its had some problems in the past.
Probably just sitting there until they deorbit it. It is old with fat beams that use up transponders.
Sounds like my ex-wife.
IS there really that many locals on Conus on 61.5 or 72.7? Doesn't look like many on the list. Just trying to figure out if this satellite is really giving them much more capacity.
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Last I checked they weren't any even available conus except PBS
On the 77 there might have been a few, but not on the 61.5.
And the NY on the 72, aren't even available.
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The launch was super to view. Thanks DISH for adding it to the guide and Scott too for all your help. That was a nice video about DISH with Vivek Khemka. 
As Nelson said in post #183, there are 109 spotbeams and no ConUS beams. Just scanning "The List" right now, it appears on 61.5 that Transponders 1-17 are all ConUS. Does that mean that 17 transponders worth of ConUS channels need to be moved to 72.7? I do see the Ft. Wayne locals have their own ConUS transponder and that could easily be converted to a Spotbeam, but it would seem overall like Dish would lose a lot of ConUS space on EA if they made 61.5 purely spotbeam. I don't see any spotbeams on 72.7 - looks like all 32 transponders are ConUS.
He is just speculating.
Nothing is etched in stone.
But IMO I don't see them moving E16 to the western arc.
It's pointless.
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Half of E16 transponders are spot, half Conus and that set the max number of spot beams available at 61.5W..
Now, they will be able to use fewer E15 transponders for Conus, which makes it possible to increase the number of transponders used for Spot beams (more markets from 61.5W) if they so choose.
A nice historical picture of E18 launch.
Thanks for the clarification. So does that mean not necessarily all 109 spotbeams will be used? Some transponders could stay ConUS, depending how Dish decides to use them?
Yes, if they don't need all 16 for Conus, they now will be able to add more spot markets. They never will use all 109 spots at 61.5W because some are designed for Hawaii/Alaska/ and other western areas and 61.5W can't "see" those areas.
I think I'd put more stock in Nelson's speculation than yours. Especially given the time he spends researching the Echostar birds and the time he devotes to making footprint maps for this site.
And?
They aren't going to take away a conus /spot beam satellite and replace it with a spot beam only satellite when the 72 is the only conus satellite on the Eastern arc.
So rather then again ,trying to put me in my place ,maybe you should research some stuff yourself instead of trying to play Sheriff.
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EchoStar 15 was launched 3.5 years ago .
It is 100 percent Conus
It is stationed at 61.5W
EchoStar 16 provides Conus on half it's transponders and spot beams on the other half.
Either E15 or E16 is providing the Conus feed from 61.5W today.
So there are two relatively new satellites providing Conus service at 61.5W
It is 100 percent Conus
It is stationed at 61.5W
EchoStar 16 provides Conus on half it's transponders and spot beams on the other half.
Either E15 or E16 is providing the Conus feed from 61.5W today.
So there are two relatively new satellites providing Conus service at 61.5W
Echostar 15 is CONUS only it will stay at 61.5 (it was previously located at 45w for an ill fated Brazilian DBS venture). Echostar 16 has CONUS and spotbeams. I assume they will locate it at 110W where E18 was first planned to be. At this point, it will provide probably nothing more than redundancy at the 110 orbital slot, where currently there is E11 a CONUS bird and E10 a spotbeam bird. With that at 61.5W they will have E12/R1 for redundancy and E16 at 110W for redundancy.
So, if you are saying that all will be left at 61.5 is E18 then sounds like you are the one that needs to do the research.
I see that you joined here in 2015, the main reason for my post was to highlight the fact that you made it sound (perhaps you didn't mean it that way) that Nelson61 did not have a very good idea of what he was talking about regarding his speculations, when the contrary is true. He has been a a member here since I believe, the beginning, and has made vast contributions to this site with spotbeam maps, etc... For "The List" and from the best I can tell reading his posts, is extremely knowledgeable about satellites in general.
Things are moving along with no reported problems.
They started increasing the perigee (from 250 km Sunday morning to 7400 km Monday morning) and the orbit is within a couple latitude degrees of the equator.
The French Guiana launch to final position will take much less time when compared to Baikonur Cosmodrome where the injection orbit is inclined something like 50 degrees from the equator and requires more time to move the satellite into a equatorial orbit.
They started increasing the perigee (from 250 km Sunday morning to 7400 km Monday morning) and the orbit is within a couple latitude degrees of the equator.
The French Guiana launch to final position will take much less time when compared to Baikonur Cosmodrome where the injection orbit is inclined something like 50 degrees from the equator and requires more time to move the satellite into a equatorial orbit.
