Echostar 14 update

[djmaui]

I can't see the launch date. I'm probably looking right at it.

Anyone know the date (and will it be televised)?

 

[nelson61]

I can't see the launch date. I'm probably looking right at it.

Anyone know the date (and will it be televised)?

Launch date usually shows up about a week or so before launch. They are about a month out now with people and parts just starting to arrive.

 

[djmaui]

Launch date usually shows up about a week or so before launch. They are about a month out now with people and parts just starting to arrive.

Big mahalo Nelson

 

[rocatman]

The E-14 satellite is currently scheduled for launch on March 20th.

 

[apollog]

DN's launch list shows 2 sat. launches this year E14 & E15, also E16 is scheduled for next year as well. I wonder what slot E16 will go to.

 

[Fitzie]

The E-14 satellite is currently scheduled for launch on March 20th.

Thanks, rocatman, it will be nice if Dish televises the launch. I've seen a few of them now and they're always entertaining.

Best regards,
Fitzie

 

[HDRoberts]

DN's launch list shows 2 sat. launches this year E14 & E15, also E16 is scheduled for next year as well. I wonder what slot E16 will go to.

E16 was only recently ordered, and I don't think it goes up until 2012. No word on slot. Could go to a new "tweener" slot Dish has license to (such as 86.5), or it could even be a BSS (so called reverse DBS) sat.

I thing you are thinking of QuetzSat-1, which will go up in the middle of next year. It is going to 77W.

Thanks, rocatman, it will be nice if Dish televises the launch. I've seen a few of them now and they're always entertaining.

Best regards,
Fitzie

I'm sure they will, but even if not, the launches are always carried on the ILS website. All Dish usually does is pick up their feed.

 

[Scott Greczkowski]

Here is a nice PDF file about the E14 mission. Its VERY well done!

http://www.ilslaunch.com/assets/pdf/Echo-XIV-MO-final.pdf

 

[Hemi 6.1]

Here is a nice PDF file about the E14 mission. Its VERY well done!

http://www.ilslaunch.com/assets/pdf/Echo-XIV-MO-final.pdf

Cool
So this is going to the 119, and the old one is coming to the 61.5?

 

[nelson61]

Moving along rapidly.

Both the Proton rocket and the satellite have arrived at the assembly area.

 

[HDRoberts]

Cool
So this is going to the 119, and the old one is coming to the 61.5?

E7 is currently at 119, and they have not announced plans. I might expect E7 to go to 148.

E6 is headed to 61.5, and the triple team there will be replaced by the new E15 around this time next year.

 

[HDRoberts]

Here is a nice PDF file about the E14 mission. Its VERY well done!

http://www.ilslaunch.com/assets/pdf/Echo-XIV-MO-final.pdf

Interesting thing is the separated mass is 6,379kg. An ILS document from 2004 puts the max mass to GTO (with a delta V of 1,800 m/s to GSO) at 6,360 kg. Sounds like E14 is pretty well maxing out the Proton's capabilities.

http://web.archive.org/web/20071027...roducts/proton/protonmpg/protonr6/pmpg_2e.pdf

 

[nelson61]

E7 is currently at 119, and they have not announced plans. I might expect E7 to go to 148.

They have told the FCC that their tentative plan is to move E8 to 148 assuming FCC will let slot stay open until E8 becomes available.

 

[nelson61]

Interesting thing is the separated mass is 6,379kg. An ILS document from 2004 puts the max mass to GTO (with a delta V of 1,800 m/s to GSO) at 6,360 kg. Sounds like E14 is pretty well maxing out the Proton's capabilities.

The planning guide was revised in Oct 2009 to reflect current capabilites.

http://www.ilslaunch.com/assets/pdf/Proton Mission Planner's Guide Revision 7 (LKEB-9812-1990).pdf

 

[digiblur]

Looks like they are preparing for the launch....

Time to figure out which TIDs go to which beams. Anyone want to take a crack at their numbering scheme? This link might help too. http://www.satelliteguys.us/dish-ne...lite-utilization-information.html#post1842789

Transponder Changes:
EchoStar14 119W TP 01 Spotbeam ??(TID 6001) 21500 8PSK 2/3 added
EchoStar14 119W TP 01 Spotbeam ??(TID 6101) 20000 QPSK 7/8 added
EchoStar14 119W TP 01 Spotbeam ??(TID 6161) 21500 8PSK 2/3 added
EchoStar14 119W TP 01 Spotbeam ??(TID 6191) 21500 8PSK 2/3 added
EchoStar14 119W TP 01 Spotbeam ??(TID 6201) 20000 QPSK 7/8 added
EchoStar14 119W TP 01 Spotbeam ??(TID 6291) 20000 QPSK 7/8 added
EchoStar14 119W TP 01 Spotbeam ??(TID 6301) 21500 8PSK 2/3 added
EchoStar14 119W TP 01 Spotbeam ??(TID 6381) 21500 8PSK 2/3 added
EchoStar14 119W TP 01 Spotbeam ??(TID 6391) 21500 8PSK 2/3 added
EchoStar14 119W TP 01 Spotbeam ??(TID 6401) 20000 QPSK 7/8 added
EchoStar14 119W TP 01 Spotbeam ??(TID 6491) 21500 8PSK 2/3 added
EchoStar14 119W TP 01 Spotbeam ??(TID 6501) 21500 8PSK 2/3 added
EchoStar14 119W TP 01 Spotbeam ??(TID 6571) 20000 QPSK 7/8 added
EchoStar14 119W TP 02 Spotbeam ??(TID 6002) 21500 8PSK 2/3 added
EchoStar14 119W TP 02 Spotbeam ??(TID 6102) 21500 8PSK 2/3 added
EchoStar14 119W TP 02 Spotbeam ??(TID 6152) 21500 8PSK 2/3 added
EchoStar14 119W TP 02 Spotbeam ??(TID 6202) 21500 8PSK 2/3 added
EchoStar14 119W TP 02 Spotbeam ??(TID 6252) 21500 8PSK 2/3 added
EchoStar14 119W TP 02 Spotbeam ??(TID 6302) 21500 8PSK 2/3 added
EchoStar14 119W TP 02 Spotbeam ??(TID 6352) 20000 QPSK 7/8 added
EchoStar14 119W TP 02 Spotbeam ??(TID 6402) 21500 8PSK 2/3 added
EchoStar14 119W TP 02 Spotbeam ??(TID 6452) 21500 8PSK 2/3 added
EchoStar14 119W TP 02 Spotbeam ??(TID 6502) 21500 8PSK 2/3 added
EchoStar14 119W TP 02 Spotbeam ??(TID 6552) 20000 QPSK 7/8 added
EchoStar14 119W TP 02 Spotbeam ??(TID 6592) 21500 8PSK 2/3 added
EchoStar14 119W TP 03 Spotbeam ??(TID 6003) 21500 8PSK 2/3 added
EchoStar14 119W TP 03 Spotbeam ??(TID 6103) 20000 QPSK 5/6 added
EchoStar14 119W TP 03 Spotbeam ??(TID 6193) 20000 QPSK 7/8 added
EchoStar14 119W TP 03 Spotbeam ??(TID 6203) 20000 QPSK 7/8 added
EchoStar14 119W TP 03 Spotbeam ??(TID 6293) 20000 QPSK 7/8 added
EchoStar14 119W TP 03 Spotbeam ??(TID 6303) 21500 8PSK 2/3 added
EchoStar14 119W TP 03 Spotbeam ??(TID 6393) 21500 8PSK 2/3 added
EchoStar14 119W TP 03 Spotbeam ??(TID 6493) 20000 QPSK 7/8 added
EchoStar14 119W TP 03 Spotbeam ??(TID 6503) 20000 QPSK 7/8 added
EchoStar14 119W TP 03 Spotbeam ??(TID 6573) 21500 8PSK 2/3 added
EchoStar14 119W TP 03 Spotbeam ??(TID 6593) 20000 QPSK 7/8 added
EchoStar14 119W TP 04 Spotbeam ??(TID 6004) 21500 8PSK 2/3 added
EchoStar14 119W TP 04 Spotbeam ??(TID 6104) 20000 QPSK 5/6 added
EchoStar14 119W TP 04 Spotbeam ??(TID 6144) 21500 8PSK 2/3 added
EchoStar14 119W TP 04 Spotbeam ??(TID 6154) 20000 QPSK 5/6 added
EchoStar14 119W TP 04 Spotbeam ??(TID 6204) 20000 QPSK 5/6 added
EchoStar14 119W TP 04 Spotbeam ??(TID 6254) 21500 8PSK 2/3 added
EchoStar14 119W TP 04 Spotbeam ??(TID 6304) 20000 QPSK 7/8 added
EchoStar14 119W TP 04 Spotbeam ??(TID 6354) 20000 QPSK 7/8 added
EchoStar14 119W TP 04 Spotbeam ??(TID 6404) 20000 QPSK 7/8 added
EchoStar14 119W TP 04 Spotbeam ??(TID 6454) 21500 8PSK 2/3 added
EchoStar14 119W TP 04 Spotbeam ??(TID 6504) 20000 QPSK 7/8 added
EchoStar14 119W TP 04 Spotbeam ??(TID 6554) 20000 QPSK 7/8 added
EchoStar14 119W TP 04 Spotbeam ??(TID 6594) 20000 QPSK 7/8 added
EchoStar14 119W TP 05 Spotbeam ??(TID 6005) 21500 8PSK 2/3 added
EchoStar14 119W TP 05 Spotbeam ??(TID 6105) 20000 QPSK 5/6 added
EchoStar14 119W TP 05 Spotbeam ??(TID 6165) 21500 8PSK 2/3 added
EchoStar14 119W TP 05 Spotbeam ??(TID 6195) 20000 QPSK 5/6 added
EchoStar14 119W TP 05 Spotbeam ??(TID 6205) 20000 QPSK 7/8 added
EchoStar14 119W TP 05 Spotbeam ??(TID 6295) 20000 QPSK 7/8 added
EchoStar14 119W TP 05 Spotbeam ??(TID 6305) 20000 QPSK 7/8 added
EchoStar14 119W TP 05 Spotbeam ??(TID 6385) 21500 8PSK 2/3 added
EchoStar14 119W TP 05 Spotbeam ??(TID 6395) 21500 8PSK 2/3 added
EchoStar14 119W TP 05 Spotbeam ??(TID 6405) 20000 QPSK 5/6 added
EchoStar14 119W TP 05 Spotbeam ??(TID 6495) 21500 8PSK 2/3 added
EchoStar14 119W TP 05 Spotbeam ??(TID 6505) 20000 QPSK 7/8 added
EchoStar14 119W TP 05 Spotbeam ??(TID 6595) 21500 8PSK 2/3 added

 

[space86]

Looks like they are preparing for the launch....

Time to figure out which TIDs go to which beams. Anyone want to take a crack at their numbering scheme? This link might help too. http://www.satelliteguys.us/dish-ne...lite-utilization-information.html#post1842789

Transponder Changes:
EchoStar14 119W TP 01 Spotbeam ??(TID 6001) 21500 8PSK 2/3 added
EchoStar14 119W TP 01 Spotbeam ??(TID 6101) 20000 QPSK 7/8 added
. . . SNIP . . .

A little premature anyone remember AMC 14?

 

[digiblur]

A little premature anyone remember AMC 14?

If I remember correctly Ciel-2's TIDs were up before it launched... or maybe it was after it launched and before it was in place. But I do know they had a problem with some older receivers and all the TIDs, and pulled them back, so I'm sure they are making sure they don't have that issue again.

 

[rocatman]

This downlink report provides evidence that E-14 will only use TPs 1 - 5 for spotbeams initially. Interesting that there are 62 TP spotbeams listed with 29 QPSK and 33 8PSK. I would assume that TPs 7 and 9 would be converted to CONUS once E-14 takes over for E-7 at least for spotbeams. I know someone has mapped the spotbeams and it would be intersting to see which ones use TPs 1 - 5 and which ones exclusively use other TPs besides 1 - 5. This would show where the E-14 spotbeam coverage will be available initially.

 

[digiblur]

This downlink report provides evidence that E-14 will only use TPs 1 - 5 for spotbeams initially. Interesting that there are 62 TP spotbeams listed with 29 QPSK and 33 8PSK. I would assume that TPs 7 and 9 would be converted to CONUS once E-14 takes over for E-7 at least for spotbeams. I know someone has mapped the spotbeams and it would be intersting to see which ones use TPs 1 - 5 and which ones exclusively use other TPs besides 1 - 5. This would show where the E-14 spotbeam coverage will be available initially.

I posted the link a few posts up Here it is again... most beams seem to have one or two TPs between 1-5.

http://www.satelliteguys.us/dish-ne...lite-utilization-information.html#post1842789

Echostar 14 Spotbeams that do not have TP's 1-5 (not launched yet)

Click on the beam to view the coverage area.

Spotbeam A6 - North Dakota - Transponders 8

Spotbeam B1 - Oregon - Transponders 8,10

Spotbeam B5 - Minnesota/Wisconsin - Transponders 9

Spotbeam B6 - Utah - Transponders 10

Spotbeam B19 - North Florida - Transponders 9,13

 

[rocatman]

I posted the link a few posts up Here it is again... most beams seem to have one or two TPs between 1-5.

http://www.satelliteguys.us/dish-ne...lite-utilization-information.html#post1842789

Sorry, missed it. The folks in Alaska and Hawaii should be happy because there are spotbeams using TPs 1 - 5 for both. Puerto Rico has four of 1 - 5.