Dual Hopper Intergration (From Team Summit)

[John Kotches]

Maybe there's going to be a version skip (212 to 214).

With 213 pulled that's not outside of the realm of possibility.

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[navychop]

I'd call it likely.

 

[3HaloODST]

RIP S213.

 

[bb83]

If they are waiting for somebody with 2 Hoppers to volunteer to test S213/S214, I am ready.

 

[3HaloODST]

If they are waiting for somebody with 2 Hoppers to volunteer to test S213/S214, I am ready.

Same! I think I could even wire in the third Hopper by connecting the "client" ports of the duo and solo nodes together. Not sure though. We'll see!

 

[ScottChez]

When we are talking integration we are Talking so Hopper 1 can see recording on Hopper 2 correct?

Today Joeys can see Hopper 1 and 2 if the select or switch to it?

 

[isaacmorseMI]

When we are talking integration we are Talking so Hopper 1 can see recording on Hopper 2 correct?

Today Joeys can see Hopper 1 and 2 if the select or switch to it?

Correct.

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[3HaloODST]

Yep, but a lot of people think of "integration" as a LOT more than simply sharing recordings. Many would like to see "full integration" which includes sharing of tuners, timers and the likes as well.

 

[n0qcu]

Yep, but a lot of people think of "integration" as a LOT more than simply sharing recordings. Many would like to see "full integration" which includes sharing of tuners, timers and the likes as well.

Not everyone though. I want my tuners & timers kept separate.

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[lawman1627]

any news?

Sadly I am on 212 still, I am positive when I checked last week it said 213 on my primary hopper. Is there a way to check software history? Any chance I got it then lost it or am i just going crazy?

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[356B]

Sadly I am on 212 still, I am positive when I checked last week it said 213 on my primary hopper. Is there a way to check software history? Any chance I got it then lost it or am i just going crazy?

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Blue button, Tests, View Counters, scroll down for previous software versions.

 

[patmurphey]

Yep, but a lot of people think of "integration" as a LOT more than simply sharing recordings. Many would like to see "full integration" which includes sharing of tuners, timers and the likes as well.

Yes, but do you oppose sharing recordings now, not later?

 

[Bobby]

213 was scrapped.... You probably went back to 212, just like all the rest of us....

 

[John Kotches]

Not everyone though. I want my tuners & timers kept separate.

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I'm curious as to why. Personally, I like the concept of a household pool of tuners and recordings. It would make my life quite a bit easier if that were the case.

 

[3HaloODST]

Yes, but do you oppose sharing recordings now, not later?

No. Just saying I hope that whenever this "integration" is released that they don't say "looks like we're done here."

Speaking of integration, I have 3 Hoppers and 2 Joeys (soon to be 1 Joey) and I noticed, after connecting the wireless adapter to the third Hopper, that it now shows up in the "My Hoppers" menu and also shows up in the "Whole-Home" menu even though this third Hopper is not even on the same MoCA network as the other two. Does this mean that Hoppers may eventually be able to link to each other over Ethernet/wireless just like Joeys have been reported to be able to link to Hoppers over Ethernet? No MoCA required between Hoppers?

If that is true, then wouldn't that render the isolators useless if they can still link together if they are on the same (Ethernet/wireless) LAN??

I was thinking about just connecting the "Client" ports together on the Solo/Duo Nodes I have in order to (hopefully) have them all on the same MoCA network, however I'm not sure if that will work or not.

EDIT: Just hooked up the spare Joey to a WRT54GS with DD-WRT in wireless bridge mode. No coax hooked up whatsoever. Router is an ASUS RT-N16 (DD-WRT also) with two HAWKING HAI15SC Hi-Gain 15dBi Corner Antennas, and the third Hopper (has NO MoCA connection to the other two Hoppers) is connected via the Dish-supplied NETGEAR Wireless-N Adapter. WORKS PERFECTLY and that's halfway across the house. Attached is a reading of the bandwidth used when tuning into HD (HDNET) and SD (some random ENCORE SD channel.)

Note: It says almost the same bandwidth up AND down because when two wireless devices communicate data is sent to the router and then back to the other device and vice-verse. Also note that on the graph before the first drops is the HDNET HD bandwidth usage, the lower amount is ENCORE SD, then after the spike near the end we're back on HDNET.



This is neat as I can see almost EXACTLY how much bandwidth each channel has.

So my guess is that Hopper integration will work exactly the same way. We'll see!

 

[gpflepsen]

Do we even remember what 19Mbps looks like?

 

[3HaloODST]

Given that Dish HD is MPEG4, MPEG4 needs half the bitrate of MPEG2 (OTA) thus, at 7Mbps, it is the equivalent to 14Mbps OTA. Not too bad.

 

[3HaloODST]

So, with three Hoppers, two on a Duo Node and one on a Solo Node I was thinking, why don't I just connect the "Client" ports of the two Nodes together so all three can communicate? Well I did it and guess what? Success! Now three Hoppers and one Joey can all see each other via MoCA!

Still messing around with the spare Joey hooked to the wireless Ethernet bridge (no MoCA at all.) Plays HD channels flawlessly!

 

[sparc]

So, with three Hoppers, two on a Duo Node and one on a Solo Node I was thinking, why don't I just connect the "Client" ports of the two Nodes together so all three can communicate? Well I did it and guess what? Success! Now three Hoppers and one Joey can all see each other via MoCA!

awesome. So, have you tried linking and unlinking the joey in between the hoppers?

I'm impressed the software accepts the third hopper well enough that it all shows up on one screen.

 

[3HaloODST]

Yep. The Joey successfully linked with the Hopper on the Solo Node, then I tried the other Hoppers on the same Duo Node as the Joey, and they worked (as expected.)

The MoCA bar in the System Info screen has 4 bars on all receivers .

Also, all other Hoppers show up in the My Hopper menu on each Hopper. Joey doesn't show other Hoppers (just external drives of the Hopper you're currently linked to,) but it never did in the first place.