that thread is sad. I don't understand people defending a product or company like it's their freaking wife's honor or something. I'm with voom but if some aspects of voom suck, I'll say so. If I bought something and it doesn't perform as I expected, I'll be the first to say it. I don't try to defend it to others to convince myself I made the right choice. This attitude of "don't complain because the other guys suck too" is idiotic cause then you'll just get the (dis)service you deserve. If you keep "defining suckage down", you'll never hit bottom b/c no company is dumb enough or principled enough to give you more when you're content to make do with less.