Do you get OTA Guide data from Dish for channels/subchannels NOT provided by Dish?

[TheKrell]

I think the general idea was to get an informal measure of how many of us get OTA guide data despite the absence of those channels from satellite. Backing that info out of James Long's chart is difficult at best. For example, I'm in the Washington DC DMA. Our Ion affiliate (WPXW) shows on the sat portion of the chart as 66-0, and that's all, because we get zero subchannels via sat. Looking down in the guide portion, there is WPXW as 66-1, but nothing is there about 66-2 or 66-3. So, a human brain has to know that 66-1 and 66-2 exist, before we can tell from that chart that we're missing anything.

 

[navychop]

What is the purpose of this poll? Isn't all the data already HERE?

I did not know of that source. And it certainly would take some time to figure it out.

 

[Teehar]

In Charlotte, most of the OTA subchannels I receive have guide data.

Yea they do a pretty good job with Charlotte.The big exception is WUNE Linville Pbs.It used to have guide data last year but no longer does.Dish does carry WUNE as channel 4 so no idea why there is no longer guide data.WHKY Hickory has 3 sub channels which Dish doesn't carry and there isn't any guide for them either.

 

[Mokanic]

Virtual Chan	Programing	Source	Guide Info	Raleigh DMA?
004-00	PBS-UNC	SAT	Yes	Yes
004-01	PBS-UNC	OTA	Yes	Yes
004-02	PBS-UNC	OTA	Yes	Yes
004-03	PBS-UNC	OTA	Yes	Yes
005-00	CBS	SAT	Yes	Yes
005-01	CBS	OTA	Yes	Yes
005-02	This	OTA	Yes	Yes
007-01	NBC	OTA	Yes	No
007-02	MeTV	OTA	Yes	No
007-03	Weather	OTA	No	No
009-01	CBS	OTA	Yes	No
009-02	CW	OTA	Yes	No
011-00	ABC	SAT	Yes	Yes
011-01	ABC	OTA	Yes	Yes
011-02	LWN	OTA	Yes	Yes
011-03	LWN	OTA	Yes	Yes
012-01	ABC	OTA	Yes	No
012-03	This	OTA	Yes	No
014-01	Fox	OTA	Yes	No
014-02	Bounce	OTA	No	No
017-00	NBC	SAT	Yes	Yes
017-01	NBC	OTA	Yes	Yes
017-02	AntTV	OTA	Yes	Yes
022-00	CW	SAT	Yes	Yes
022-01	CW	OTA	Yes	Yes
022-02	Country	OTA	No	Yes
025-01	PBS-UNC	OTA	Yes	No
025-02	PBS-UNC	OTA	Yes	No
025-03	PBS-UNC	OTA	Yes	No
028-00	UPN	SAT	Yes	Yes
028-01	UPN	OTA	Yes	Yes
028-02	CoolTv	OTA	Yes	Yes
030-00	Local	SAT	Yes	Yes
030-01	Local	OTA	Yes	Yes
030-02	Local	OTA	No	Yes
030-03	Local	OTA	No	Yes
030-04	Local	OTA	No	Yes
034-01	Local	OTA	No	No
034-02	Local	OTA	No	No
034-03	Local	OTA	No	No
036-00	PBS-UNC	SAT	Yes	Yes
043-01	Local	OTA	No	No
043-02	Local	OTA	No	No
043-03	Local	OTA	No	No
047-00	ION	SAT	Yes	Yes
047-01	ION	OTA	No	Yes
047-02	qubo	OTA	No	Yes
047-03	Life	OTA	No	Yes
050-00	Fox	OTA	Yes	Yes
050-01	Fox	OTA	Yes	Yes
050-02	MeTV	OTA	Yes	Yes

I am in the majority of subs who do get guide info for the sub channels.

9 - Local DMA SAT Channels - All major networks' sub channels picked up via OTA has guide info. Have OTA duplicates for (ABC/CBS/Fox/NBC). Comes in handy when wife's shows are pre-empted on one channel for sports and do not come on until 2AM - 5AM.

42 - OTA stations (Outdoor Rotating Ant.) - also pick up Greenville, NC locals via antenna and most of those show guide data as well even though I am "out" of that market area. The antenna is pointed in "opposite" directions to switch to "down east" locals vs. Raleigh locals.

15 - OTA with no guide data - mostly locally broadcast stations (Selma/Goldsboro)

I can pick three total PBS (4/25/36 via OTA), but one PBS station is like all the others. And channel 40 is in the Raleigh DMA, but I do not speak the language, so i is not represented here.

 

[The Fat Man]

Coming from the Massachusetts/New Hampshire Boarder area. About 35 minutes from the city. Get the following OTA:

2.1- WGBH (PBS) Boston
2.2- WGBH DT2 (WGBH World)
4.1- WBZ (CBS) Boston
5.1- WCVB (ABC) Boston
7.1- WHDH (NBC) Boston
7.2- WHDH DT2 (This)
9.1- WMUR (ABC) Manchester NH
9.2- WMUR DT2 (MeTV)
11.1- WENH (PBS) Manchester NH
11.2- WENH DT2 (WENH in SD)
11.3- WENH DT3 (NH Explore)
21.1- WPXG (qubo) Concord NH
21.2- WPXG DT2 (Ion in HD)
21.3- WPXG DT3 (Ion Life)
25.1- WFXT (FOX) Boston
27.1- WUNI (Univision) Worchester
27.2- WUNI DT2 (LATV)
34.1- WNEU (Telemu) Merrimack NH
38.1- WSBK (MNT) Boston
44.1- WGBX (PBS) Boston
44.2- WGBX DT2 (WGBH World)
44.3- WGBX DT3 (WGBH Create)
44.4- WGBX DT4 (WGBH Kids)
48.1- WYDN (Day Star) Worchester
50.1- WBIN (Independent) Derry NH
50.2- WBIN DT2 (Live Well)
50.3- WBIN DT3 (The Cool TV)
56.1- WLVI (The CW) Boston
56.2- WLVI DT2 (TCN)
62.1- WMFP (MeTV) Lawrence
62.2- WMFP DT2 (RTV)
66.1- WUTF (Telefutra) Marlborough
68.1- WBPX (Ion) Boston
68.2- WBPX DT2 (qubo)
68.3- WBPX DT3 (Ion Life)

I get all the correct info for every channel except all the WBINs (I get info from FOX 50 in NC), and WMFP DT2 (doesn't come in at all).

Without an Amp, the clear Channels are 2,4,5,9,11,27,34,44, 48,50,& 62.

Depending on the season, 7 & 25 come in clear. 7 in the colder months and 25 in the warmer months.

 

[foghorn2]

No love for Vegas when it comes to guide data for OTA's

 

[JTBenson]

I have 31 Channels OTA. Of those channels, 17 have guide data and 14 do not. Only the Big 4 are available via satellite and they all have guide data on the OTA version, so out of the 27 that are not also satellite, 13 have guide data and 14 do not, so about half and half.

Channel	Call Letters	Network	Guide Info	DMA	Satellite
002-01	KQTV	ABC	Yes	St. Joseph	Yes
004-01	WDAF	FOX	Yes	Kansas City
004-02	WDAF	Antenna TV	No	Kansas City
005-01	KCTV	CBS	Yes	Kansas City	Yes
009-01	KMBC	ABC	Yes	Kansas City
009-02	KMBC	MeTV	Yes	Kansas City
016-01	KTAJ	TBN	No	St. Joseph
016-02	KTAJ	Church	No	St. Joseph
016-03	KTAJ	JCTV	No	St. Joseph
016-04	KTAJ	Enlace	No	St. Joseph
016-05	KTAJ	Smile	No	St. Joseph
019-01	KCPT	PBS	Yes	Kansas City
019-02	KCPT	PBS Encore	Yes	Kansas City
019-03	KCPT	Create	Yes	Kansas City
021-01	KBJO	CW	No	St. Joseph
026-01	KNPN	FOX	Yes	St. Joseph	Yes
026-02	KNPN	News Press Now	Yes	St. Joseph
026-04	KNPN	Telemundo	Yes	St. Joseph
029-01	KCWE	CW	Yes	Kansas City
029-02	KCWE	ThisTV	No	Kansas City
038-01	KMCI	Ind.	Yes	Kansas City
038-02	KMCI	Live Well	No	Kansas City
041-01	KSHB	NBC	Yes	Kansas City	Yes
041-02	KSHB	Cozi TV	Yes	Kansas City
050-01	KPXE	Ion	Yes	Kansas City
050-02	KPXE	qubo	No	Kansas City
050-03	KPXE	Ion Life	No	Kansas City
050-04	KPXE	Ion Shop	No	Kansas City
050-05	KPXE	QVC	No	Kansas City
062-01	KSMO	MyNetTV	Yes	Kansas City
062-02	KSMO	Bounce	No	Kansas City

 

[DishSubLA]

I've noticed MORE guide data for Los Angeles OTA sub-channels here. A lot more of the foreign channels. However, there are still PLENTY of channels with no guide data. Among the most annoying is guide data for MeTV affiliate Channel 20 via LiL, out of Barstow, I think, not the real LOCAL channel 20, but NO guide data for real local MeTV at 56.3. Better PQ at 56.3 is why I would prefer to record from their instead of more compressed 20.

 

[levibluewa]

I get OTA guide data from Directv's Advanced Program setup...you can enter 2 zip codes and get the programming info...no such thing with DISH. Just like Directv was able to get a modified version of "Local on the 8s" that actually works, unlike DISH.

 

[ClarkGable]

I get guide info for some, but not all, Fort Wayne, IN locals and subs OTA. All four of the PBS 39 subs have info, and I get info on subs 21.2 and 33.2. While I can pick up a couple of Lima, OH stations, only the independent religious broadcaster 44.1 has guide info -not the mainstream NBC/FOX stations.

 

[slick1ru2]

In Atlanta, I am not getting the guide for channels Dish doesn't carry. I have to find the schedule for that channel online and manually set up the DVR. Events are called, "digital service'.