Disney drops 2.4 million streaming subs

Yes, as they forecasted, with losses expected to peak in 2022 and profitability in 2024.

You'd know this if you bothered to cite any of your FUD.
Because why exactly?

Content costs are not going down.

No one is waiting for it to come to their town. Everyone who wants it, has it.

And it doesn't make any money.

What EXACTLY has to happen for it to make money?
 
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Because why exactly?

Content costs are not going down.

No one is waiting for it to come to their town. Everyone who wants it, has it.

And it doesn't make any money.

What EXACTLY has to happen for it to make money?

lol, why would I expect you to believe anything? You're the one that keeps posting the same things over and over in an effort to re-convince only yourself it seems, even when obviously untrue (no subscriber growth for streamers, your standalone Sunday Ticket claims, etc).


That has some expectations about the moves ahead of them and comments from this past November. Google is not hard. Neither is citing your posts when trying to pass things as fact. But with many things faith-based (politics, fandom) sometimes it's easier to just keep repeating yourself and not let facts get in the way?

Everyone who wants it, has it.

This is funny every time you repeat it. Like the 50+ times you claimed Sunday Ticket would require another service.
 
Yeah, there is a little material for adults, if you are into sci-fi or comic books. Very little else.
I watch a fair amount of the National Geographic content as well as some of the ESPN documentaries, in addition to the Sci-Fi and Marvel stuff. Also, there are a lot of adults who largely watch kids programming these days for whatever reason. Disney+ isn't unprofitable because of lack of audience. It is unprofitable because they are spending more money they are generating. They need to figure out a way to get their production costs way down if they want to continue to make this much content.
 
I watch a fair amount of the National Geographic content as well as some of the ESPN documentaries, in addition to the Sci-Fi and Marvel stuff. Also, there are a lot of adults who largely watch kids programming these days for whatever reason. Disney+ isn't unprofitable because of lack of audience. It is unprofitable because they are spending more money they are generating. They need to figure out a way to get their production costs way down if they want to continue to make this much content.
Or just produce content the masses are willing to pay $70 a month for
 
Or just produce content the masses are willing to pay $70 a month for
Yeah, finding that balance will be key. If everything they made was as good as The Mandalorian and Andor, people might be willing to pay more, but we are also getting Obi-wan and Book of Boba Fett which don't come close to measuring up. Personally, I've kind of given up on the Marvel stuff, so Disney's value proposition only makes sense for me with the Hulu bundle.
 
They need to figure out a way to get their production costs way down if they want to continue to make this much content.

I believe there is a guy named Alex B that has some experience and talent in this area….
 

That has some expectations about the moves ahead of them and comments from this past November. Google is not hard. Neither is citing your posts when trying to pass things as fact. But with many things faith-based (politics, fandom) sometimes it's easier to just keep repeating yourself and not let facts get in the way?
Hey, you tried. Motley Fool is not exactly the WSJ or Barron's, but you tried. More than others asked the question have done.

Google is not hard. Its also not a substitute for serious economic research.

Fact is no one knows how to make streaming profitable. If they did, they would do it.

My "faith" is in market research. Linear TV remains a license to print money. Allways will be. Streaming remains a money pit. No one knows how to reverse that.
 
Hey, you tried. Motley Fool is not exactly the WSJ or Barron's, but you tried. More than others asked the question have done.

Google is not hard. Its also not a substitute for serious economic research.

Fact is no one knows how to make streaming profitable. If they did, they would do it.

My "faith" is in market research. Linear TV remains a license to print money. Allways will be. Streaming remains a money pit. No one knows how to reverse that.

Ah, this is where you (again) pretend Netflix doesn't exist.

I posted a link, where's yours?
 
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More mis-information, you didn’t even try and post the 3rd and 4th quarter, why even waste your time responding to meStevo post when it was so easy to prove you incorrect.

3rd Quarter +2.4 Million

4th Quarter +7.66 million


 
Instead of making personal attacks..look at north american subscribers
Are they the only ones who pays that provides Netflix to be profitable?

You know, a company that only streams.

Or should we talk about DirecTV, a company AT&T bought for 67 Billion Dollars ( including debt), now valued at $15 Billion, a company that has lost 52 Billion Dollars in value.

You know, a Traditional Live TV Provider.
 
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Everyone who wants it, has it.
Why do you keep writing that when the majority of streaming services have growth this year, for example Paramount+ just added 9 Million subs in the 4th quarter and 20 Million for the year, that is net adds, after churn.

A better question to ask, when will Traditional Live TV Providers quit losing subscribers on their way to unprofitability?

When will they start adding subscribers again?

Since Cable Channels are losing per sub fees every day, how are they going to continue, specially since Advertisers have moved to more streaming services then Traditional Channels?

How will DirecTV continue since they are no longer putting new Satellites up, no growth for DirecTV Stream and losing 500,000 a quarter, even if they rate does not go up ( it will), that is 10 million gone in 5 years, that means unprofitable in 4 years after 8 million gone between the 3 services ( Sat., Stream, Uverse).
 
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Fact is no one knows how to make streaming profitable. If they did, they would do it.
Maybe no one besides Netflix anyway. That said, Disney should have the best shot at it from the other players. Of course, at the rate linear TV is losing subscribers, it will be in the same boat as all the non-Netflix streamers are right now revenue-wise. That said, there are other profitable streaming companies, just maybe not the kind you are thinking of. For instance: YouTube. Alphabet doesn't say how profitable since it is lumped in with other lines of business, but they are clear the YT is quite profitable.
 
Maybe no one besides Netflix anyway. That said, Disney should have the best shot at it from the other players. Of course, at the rate linear TV is losing subscribers, it will be in the same boat as all the non-Netflix streamers are right now revenue-wise. That said, there are other profitable streaming companies, just maybe not the kind you are thinking of. For instance: YouTube. Alphabet doesn't say how profitable since it is lumped in with other lines of business, but they are clear the YT is quite profitable.
You mean the funny videos and stuff?

YTTV the linear tv service is still losing money
 
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You mean the funny videos and stuff?

YTTV the linear tv service is still losing money
There is a wide variety of content on YT, including feature length movies, professionally produced, long form content on a variety of subjects, as well "funny videos and stuff." Remember all the cool stuff Discovery, TLC, and History used to show? The modern equivalent is on YT, and it is as good and sometimes better than what we used to get on cable channels. Just one example:

 
YouTube (not YouTube TV, which bleeds money) is not germane to this discussion. It is a different market segment.

When we talk about on-demand streaming services of professional filmed, or sports, entertainment providers, such as Disney+, ESPN+, Peacock, Paramount, etc. etc. etc. all, save only Netflix have one thing in common. They don't make any money. The industry is fully mature. Completely built out (available to everyone who it ever will be available to), completely developed (exactly what it will be in two years, or two decades).

And unprofitable. If mega-corporations like Disney, Comcast, etc. had an idea on how to make money at this, don't you think they would implement it?
 
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