All negotiations are a game.
I think for everybody's sake, we should just pretend that ESPN is represented by James Cagney and Dish is represented by Henry Fonda in Mister Roberts.He was doing a callback to Boehner's snappy retort earlier in the day.....
I think for everybody's sake, we should just pretend that ESPN is represented by James Cagney and Dish is represented by Henry Fonda in Mister Roberts.
Of course I do. And thank you for talking down to me.
If you really want to see what it is like being talked down to, hang out in the Pit for 30 seconds or less. I have never seen a bigger group of self appointed experts of nothing.
Does anyone know how these contract talks are held? Is this something that is done face to face..... or is it handled another way? Are these talks being held in LA or someother location....... just curious how these sort of contract discussiosn are normally handled?
Thanks
Well I think my head beat my gut in this round... but the good news is the channels are still on DISH. And as long as the channels are on DISH I will consider that a positive sign.
Do tell. How does the PAC12 Network look?
It could be PAC1 OR PAC100, their absence doesn't affect me.....I have zero interest in College Football.
I know Directv will be increasing their rates next year but my first year direct savings with them is just over $400 in the first year and around $150 in the second, and that's not counting the $200 visa card they sent me to cover the $140 Dish cancellation penalty and the other freebies like Sunday Ticket and 6 to 12 months of free premiums. I think these savings will more than offset the increases to come.
People, I'm no shill for Direct, just a customer that's looking to pay a fair value for a decent service. I think all of their days are numbered & look forward to the day I can find a reasonable way to cut the cord. I admire Dish for trying but I found their company policies towards their customers not very endearing and conducive to encourage loyalty. Direct may not pan out to be the long valuable service provider I'm looking for but so far they've made a good start. Being a huge sports fan, I probably did make the wrong satellite provider choice in going to Dish from the start as I now see Direct's emphasis on it's sports coverage and definitely like it.
It could be PAC1 OR PAC100, their absence doesn't affect me.....I have zero interest in College Football.
I know Directv will be increasing their rates next year but my first year direct savings with them is just over $400 in the first year and around $150 in the second, and that's not counting the $200 visa card they sent me to cover the $140 Dish cancellation penalty and the other freebies like Sunday Ticket and 6 to 12 months of free premiums. I think these savings will more than offset the increases to come.
People, I'm no shill for Direct, just a customer that's looking to pay a fair value for a decent service. I think all of their days are numbered & look forward to the day I can find a reasonable way to cut the cord. I admire Dish for trying but I found their company policies towards their customers not very endearing and conducive to encourage loyalty. Direct may not pan out to be the long valuable service provider I'm looking for but so far they've made a good start. Being a huge sports fan, I probably did make the wrong satellite provider choice in going to Dish from the start as I now see Direct's emphasis on it's sports coverage and definitely like it.
Maybe it really is not a bad idea for Dish to just drop ESPN and try to be that economy value provider, as I agree, sports is getting ridiculously expensive and fans like me are not helping.
I suspect that it is mostly done with emails and phone calls. The contracts are probably in MS word with a markup and change history. Each side keeps marking up and making comments about different sections and they send these markups back and forth as they work out the details in each section of the contract. Given the number of channels I would not be surprised if the contract was several hundred pages. Each sentence is scrutinized by each side. The contract was probably originated by Disney as their "standard" licensing contract.
Essentially it just keeps going back and forth between the lawyers until it comes down to just a few points of contention, then these points are individually negotiated, by executives on each side, and if a general agreement is reached on a point then the lawyers start going back and forth with the language to reflect what each side believes was agreed to until they agree on the language of that point.
This is why it can take a very long time to come up with a contract.
More The Caine Mutiny. ESPN/ABC want all the strawberries!
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Do what is best for you. I bet no one here is willing to pay your bill so I have no idea why people care. Switch every two if you need to. You won't get any sh*t from me man. I had Direct and they wanted to charge me way to much for a genie. I was out of contract, never missed a payment and had the premiere pack. I wasn't looking for a freebie but $300 was way to much. So to each his own and good luck to you siur.
'Tis how it is with some people. Disagree with them or state an opinion they disagree with and you are an ignorant hillbilly that doesn't understand how the world works. I get this kind of response on my blog all the time.
I am with you. As a consumer, I feel caught in the middle, under contract, with no other choices. Here in Podunk city, population 345, we have four choices, Dish, Directv, Time Warner, and antenna. Time Warner is prohibitively expensive and uses equipment that hails back to the Adelphia days. (Awful, antiquated equipment that even the installers are embarrassed to install) With the antenna I can either get six channels from Toledo or six channels from Fort Wayne. So it is either Dish or Directv, and I have had both. I switch every few years to try and save on cost.
In the meantime, other costs continue to escalate. I am disabled, so we are basically a one income family. Our insurance costs are going up in January and Ohio Gas just raised our budget by 60%. I am not whining, it is what it is. Costs go up, while wages continue to decline or stay the same. Consumers, especially those who are on the lower end of the economic spectrum, face increasing economic pressure as costs continue to climb. Of course, having Dish is not essential, but we do love to watch TV and not being able to would certainly be disappointing. (As someone with chronic pain and debility, TV often becomes the one thing that can take my mind off the pain, especially on days when the pain meds are not working as well as they should.
As much as I love watching sports, I am concerned about the ever-escalating costs for sports.
While I typically hold your intuitional gut with high regard... I honestly can't possibly conjure up a single thought where the channels being up still would be anything of a bad sign. So your observation here would be pretty obvious.Well I think my head beat my gut in this round... but the good news is the channels are still on DISH. And as long as the channels are on DISH I will consider that a positive sign.
I'm positive talks will break down next Friday morning and they'll pull all their networks at midnight so I'll end up missing OU/Texas on ABC.
And before the antenna gang swoopes in to scream "free over the air", I can't receive over the air where I live. Such is the life of someone who live in Canyon Country, California.
I just hope OU wins by about 50.