It would be quite easy for anyone without knowledge of Dish retailer terminology.I don't see how anyone could have misunderstood that.
It would be quite easy for anyone without knowledge of Dish retailer terminology.I don't see how anyone could have misunderstood that.
And then you wonder why DISH has so many business rules it's difficult to install a system without filling out everything in triplicate... If Charlie should have taught you one thing by now, it's that if you screw DISH, they're gonna pop a few Viagra and screw you harder, all morning and night, with no lube. It's also a CONSIDERABLY bad idea to further piss off a group of intelligent and already frustrated employees by making their lives more difficult; least of all when you want them to give you something.
It's not a partnership (I know what Charlie told you at Team Summit, he lied), retailers are bloody 1099 Independant Contractors; employees without benefits, who are treated about as well or better than actual employees. You're on the payroll, don't like it, quit. Do remember that the next time you call or e-mail in, the person you're talking to is probably in the same boat, so if you're treating them like they're fresh out of Burger King drive-thru, they'll probably tell you to go F yourself.
Star ratings, business rules, audit teams, claim denials...each and every single truly aggravating and yet necessary process at DISH were all caused by retailers or subscribers not paying for what they signed up to get, or installing the way they should; wanting something free, not wanting to do something properly or some other scam. Try to keep 14M people from taking you for a ride, or another several thousand retailers from trying the same and see if you can understand why DISH seems forever paranoid. DISH is a master at dealing with professional a*holes (making a few too).
hogwash. The only retailer terminology in there is "charge back". Unless someone is confused with "do the work", "paying for it", "take it all back", "sell", and "switch customers to DirecTV"It would be quite easy for anyone without knowledge of Dish retailer terminology.
You're wrong. Many people with various kinds of knowledge have forgotten, or perhaps never actually realized in the first place, that average people simply have no knowledge of many things, whether it be technical, legal, medical, or otherwise. I see it all of the time, and am guilty of it myself, on occasion.hogwash. The only retailer terminology in there is "charge back". Unless someone is confused with "do the work", "paying for it", "take it all back", "sell", and "switch customers to DirecTV"
and if the term "back charge" was really that unknown to the reader, it doesn't take much reading comprehension and context from the rest of the post to at least understand what it's about.
Don't really get your point, incoherent rambling is not my specialty.
Retailers, Rsp contractors & sales partners are not employees, but collectively they are a major driving force. Without them, business at dish would change very quickly.
If that's actually their attitude towards their customers, then there certainly is a problem.
Zero327 said:Ok, let me dumb it down for you; you're deluded. There are only a handful of RSPs; with or without them, DISH would continue. You're on the payroll even if you aren't the Mirriam-Webster defintion of "employee". Your ass is owned lock, stock and barrel by DISH. You don't have to agree, but as long as DISH cuts your checks and can shut you down for any or no reason, that's how it is.
You really don't matter and are incredibly easy to replace; apparently just like most of their employees.
That clear enough?
Gary,
Can't argue with you there. But let me ask; if DISH has a justified reason for that attitude, don't you think the problem is MUCH larger than that? On more of a societal scale. Personally, I'm a realist, most people are a*holes. An optomistic view of the world doesn't change that. As a business, I would hope you run a realistic business, not an optomistic one.
And your quick to point out that dish and RSPs are so different did you know that we're required to wear the same uniforms DNS techs wear? And drive the exact same white vans? And use the exact same tablet computer? RSPs are the backbone of Dish in America. There are more subs, retailers, and RSPs than there are inhouse techs.
And your quick to point out that dish and RSPs are so different did you know that we're required to wear the same uniforms DNS techs wear? And drive the exact same white vans? And use the exact same tablet computer? RSPs are the backbone of Dish in America. There are more subs, retailers, and RSPs than there are inhouse techs.
Zero327 said:As far as what I am or think, I have the numbers to support my statements, do you? You can either accept that retailers (RSPs, distributors or whatever others you want to pick) are just about as expendable as employees, or you can't. But if you can't, and you work for one, being untouchable is one hell of an assumption to operate under. Few at DISH walk in each day knowing they aren't expendable; hence this topic.
No one employed by Dish in any manner thinks they're untouchable. Hence the name of this thread.
I'm pretty mad at dish right now over a big back charge. It's not related to my personal account & could have been prevented if they would have notified me before hand instead of letting me do the work, paying for it & then for reasons undetermined at this point, take it all back. I can promise them 1 thing without a doubt. If it can't be resolved & the funds given back, I will intentionally seek out & sell at the minimum 10 out of contract dish customers & switch them to Directv.
The Underground Man said:As a person who works for the company and took the survey I can tell you that not only was it not anonymous, but anyone in the call center could see our names and what we said and how we rated the company. This didn't stop me from saying exactly what the problems are. Someone was talking about the passing score on the Technicians, well when you work for the call center some things you do directly effects their pay, like issuing a Trouble Call (that's a tech having to go back to a job within the sixty day warranty). But the problem is that if it's not legitimate and you try and charge the person it will fall back on you and affect your call time and CSAT score (customer satisfaction score), so the company basically pits CSRs against techs and vice versa because stuff they do will effect us some of the time and they're really pressed for time because they're not always given enough time per day to work on each job.
Our CSAT is a scale of 1-5. But a passing is 4.2, so you really have to get at least one five per period or your screwed. If you get a four you're treated like something is wrong with you even though a lot of the time the score is because the customer is upset at a situation.
Techs are rated 1-10 (10 is represented by pressing 0).
Techs must maintain 9.6 or higher.
9 is failing.
Imagine how easy it is to accidentally put in a 1 when trying to issue a 10.
One blown survey messes up your cast average for 3 weeks.
Doesn't seem fair.
Actually, the problem is quite the opposite. The individual is everything, and screw everybody else. The popular new expression "Rugged individualism" is just a pretty term for selfishness, greed, ego, and inconsiderate behavior.Amazing how sick society has become. The individual is worth nothing. Everybody against everybody. Sick!
Actually, the problem is quite the opposite. The individual is everything, and screw everybody else. The popular new expression "Rugged individualism" is just a pretty term for selfishness, greed, ego, and inconsiderate behavior.