Dish /Direct Merger Hits A Roadblock

DISH had a conference call yesterday... From what was reported to me by a number of folks who were on the call DISH already got their money for this deal.

I reported what was told me to me by the participants in this post.

 
DISH had a conference call yesterday... From what was reported to me by a number of folks who were on the call DISH already got their money for this deal.

I reported what was told me to me by the participants in this post.

I wonder if any of the debt holders were on the call? Holding 1.6b in debt would warrant a seat at the table.
Any way you look at this it'll be a while before this goes through.
 
I admit I quickly read it, but it said the debt holders would take a 1.6B loss.
Um
Didn't Direct TV buy Dish for $1 PLUS assuming all the debt?
So what loss? It's now Direct TV that owes them. Same debt!
No it isn't. The terme of the deal as I understand it, which the bondholders have to approve, is they would have to exchange their current bonds for new ones with less principal value, maturing later, with a larger interest rate (higher annual return to bondholders). Their alternative if they fail to approve it is the deal fails, EchoStar goes bankrupt and defaults on the debt.

As far as DISH already getting the money, that would be the $1.
 
I admit I quickly read it, but it said the debt holders would take a 1.6B loss.
Um
Didn't Direct TV buy Dish for $1 PLUS assuming all the debt?
So what loss? It's now Direct TV that owes them. Same debt!
It's actually TPG that owns both companies or the merged company and I haven't fact-checked this but I understand TPS already was a big time investor in Echostar

No it isn't. The terme of the deal as I understand it, which the bondholders have to approve, is they would have to exchange their current bonds for new ones with less principal value, maturing later, with a larger interest rate (higher annual return to bondholders). Their alternative if they fail to approve it is the deal fails, EchoStar goes bankrupt and defaults on the debt.

As far as DISH already getting the money, that would be the $1.
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I admit I quickly read it, but it said the debt holders would take a 1.6B loss.
Um
Didn't Direct TV buy Dish for $1 PLUS assuming all the debt?
So what loss? It's now Direct TV that owes them. Same debt!
There are multiple layers of debt. Most of the tv debt is being rolled and will be carried by Directv.
Echostar and it's wireless business retains the rest of it.

A smaller sub group of bondholders are the ones being asked to accept a haircut of 1.5+ billion.
They are the ones asking for asset guarantees, etc. to protect their remaining investment.
They have until the end of this month to come to a deal.
 
TPG isn't buying Echostar; just the DISH and Sling TV portions. It isn't clear who will own the satellite fleet.
Scott G. told me that the DISH satellites are owned by Echostar and stay that way. So are the uplinks and pops and receiver manufacturing part and distribution. So that means that TPG is having to pay Echostar monthly to keep getting their channels uplinked and maintained by Echostar I would think. The Directv satellites I am not sure about, but I would think that TPG gets those, since ATT wanted out of the satellite business so bad they were willing to take DISH's debt and then TPG is paying ATT through 2029 for the 70% stake they once had, so around $7.6 billion dollars. As well as TPG giving $2 billion to Charlie to pay his debt payment in November, but this could be a loan and might have to be paid back in the future. Not for sure on that one.
 
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