Post # 4 of this thread - open the feature sheet for the 4K Joey. It's just a single image....I haven't read through all the posts in this thread in the last 24 hours, but are there any screen shots of the new UI? That's the only real problem I have with the Hopper is that the UI seems a bit dated.
I clicked around the Internet to places like CNET, gizmo, endgadget and other places and was a little surprised to see just how well the comments were going to this idea. I'd say 90% positive with plenty of "I want it....now".I am 28, and think this will fit quite a bit of my friends.
Unless Sony has its way. It's going to be interesting to see how these stack up head to head. Sony still has content announcements for their service.I clicked around the Internet to places like CNET, gizmo, endgadget and other places and was a little surprised to see just how well the comments were going to this idea. I'd say 90% positive with plenty of "I want it....now".
Many said, "I'd pay $20 for ESPN alone".
Looks to me like this will be a winner to its target market.
What would be ironic is if Disney Jr and Disney XD are in HD on Sling TV and not on Dish.
I got some good video of the new UI, but internet is crawling here. Said it would take 21 hours to upload the 450 MB file. (grrr.)
I have heard that some companies are beginning to move away from the Flat design. Maybe even Apple.I hate "flat design" with a passion.
There is so little 4K content. It's like this piece of candy that get's dangled in front of people to make them want a new TV.To have a big base they are going to have to get some FAST uncapped broadband out to the masses (not just Dish, but everybody). If they had a partner or the resources a high cap or uncapped LTE type service using Dish's spectrum would help get faster broadband to more areas. But I think they are just sitting on that as an investment.
I think you are right. If I were in the market for a new TV today, I would certainly go ahead with 4K, but right now, I think it is more of a marketing gimmick to get people to spend more. I don't think it will end up like 3D, but on the other hand, I don't believe that it will ever be as ubiquitous as HDTV (720p, 1080i), I think it will be more along the lines of 1080p, a few PPV movies, maybe a feed of ESPN, of course streaming, eventually some sort of optical media (Blu-Ray 4K, didn't someone introduce this at CES?), and perhaps later a feed each of HBO, Showtime, and Starz. I think at this point there are a lot of consumers such as myself. I am usually an early adapter, but there has to be some compelling content. I started out in HD back in about 2003 or 2004 with a 45" projection Mitsubishi, then after about three years, that set went kaput and I got a 46" Sony. Then I got rid of my tv cabinet that was restricting my size and got a 60" Samsung Plasma about bought 3 years ago, I think I will wait a couple of more years until it gets about 5 or 6 years old to see about upgrading, by then we should know if there is going to be a lot of 4K content. Right now, it is mainly streaming and my internet is so slow (DSL about 4mbps that is really more like 2mbps) or restricted by data caps (Exede and AT&T LTE) that I couldn't get any 4K streaming content anyway.There is so little 4K content. It's like this piece of candy that get's dangled in front of people to make them want a new TV.
With UHD Blu Ray coming later this year, 4k looks like it is here to stay. But, I think it is still a few months too early to buy a new TV. Until they have the new UHDBD standard released and the new HDMI 2.0 and HDCP 2.2 out, there are just too many possible gotchas that could happen.There is so little 4K content. It's like this piece of candy that get's dangled in front of people to make them want a new TV.
"look almost 4k" is subjective and for many, it won't be good enough. The fact that they know it's upconverted is an issue for many ! Purely from a technical standpoint, an upconverted-to-4k can't be as good as a native 4k picture.IF 4k tvs all upconvert the image of any input to 4k like resolution and it can make a 1080p picture look almost 4k...
For the vast majority of people, you're exactly right....then it really doesn't matter if there is 4k content is out there right away.
...Purely from a technical standpoint, an upconverted-to-4k can't be as good as a native 4k picture...