Looks like Fox News all over again. The parent company using channels as bargaining chips for channels not part of the contract being renegotiated.
DISH and Sinclair extend contract talks (Update 8/25 Stations Removed)
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You're wasting your breathe or time. Dish didn't purposely pull the guide data - they simply copy the satellite channel's guide data to the -01 channel.
Let us know if any of them blame the loss of OTA guide data on the station, "they are the ones who provide the data", etc, etc.
Just got a call from my Dad asking why they don't have Fox anymore. He doesn't care what the reasoning is or who is at fault. He just wants to watch TV. He told me that if it isn't back by Wednesday, September 9th he is going to cancel and schedule an install with Charter. He's not going to miss the Lions NFL regular season opener on September 13th.
I would be surprised if it went that long. Sinclair broke the law by requiring a contract for channels they currently do not own. By the way the Lions will win that game
Tom Wheeler is pissing into the wind.
Even if the gubmint allowed it, the whole concept of franchises would be gutted and I can't imagine the NAB would stand for that.
I think it will be resolved before then too. There are too many markets affected to let this drag out for months.
It is a simple fix, and never a bad thing to let them know what you feel. It took a grand total of 2 minutes to do.
Well in Minneapolis apparently they dont care. CW23 Spacebook site has 2 comments. One worrying about a show in October 
Of course, that doesn't answer my issue which is what motivation does an MVPD have to negotiate in good faith if they're allowed to import other markets?
The "network" actually started last year. American Sports Network. It wasn't a dedicated channel per se but the games were produced under that marketing and Sinclair stations had the option to carry them.
Except Dish does have the option of utilizing PSIP data (provided free with the OTA signal) for those subscribers who CAN get reception, but they refuse to.
IIRC, the guide data does come from a 3rd party. The locals submit their schedule to that company. I'm drawing a blank on the name right now. But the guide data is also available OTA. Granted, not 7 days worth, maybe only one, but it would still allow timers to function. Dish won't utilize it because... ?? I find it hard to believe Dish is "working for the consumer" when they hamstring subscribers.
I haven't seen anyone post about credits so I'll post what I was able to get my parents. I wasn't rude and didn't demand anything or threaten to cancel. I simply told them that my dad is a big Lions fan and doesn't want to miss his NFL games on Fox.
The CSR offered half off multisport for NFL Redzone for 6 months and a $5 credit for 6 months to offset the increase that multi-sport would add. I'm sure I could have haggled with the guy for a better offer but he was helpful and came up with a pretty good solution so i didn't bother. This means he will only be paying $1.50 for Redzone.
Obviously this isn't as good as being able to watch the entire game but at least Redzone will show all the most important plays. Not only that but there is a good chance the channel will be back before the first game so we will get both. We add Redzone for NFL season every year anyways so this was a no brainer.
The CSR offered half off multisport for NFL Redzone for 6 months and a $5 credit for 6 months to offset the increase that multi-sport would add. I'm sure I could have haggled with the guy for a better offer but he was helpful and came up with a pretty good solution so i didn't bother. This means he will only be paying $1.50 for Redzone.
Obviously this isn't as good as being able to watch the entire game but at least Redzone will show all the most important plays. Not only that but there is a good chance the channel will be back before the first game so we will get both. We add Redzone for NFL season every year anyways so this was a no brainer.
Well in Minneapolis apparently they dont care. CW23 Spacebook site has 2 comments. One worrying about a show in October
I think that would be the case here But Dish has contract issues with CBS, NBC and Fox. Not sure why ABC is on since Sinclair owns them as well
It comes from Tribune. But if Dish carries the local on satellite they (usually) map it to the OTA station. So if the local is pulled, then dish also pulls the guide info for OTA (which IMO is wrong)
This is another good reason to have an OTA module attached to your DVR. I have OTA timers set for our favorite ABC channel in the St Louis DMA. My wife would be highly upset if she missed Celebrity Wife Swap tonite! 
Okay, My question is the complaint to the FCC from Dish.
What is that going to do?
Just from what I've seen in the past, Unless the FCC can benifit from a complaint being financial , I never notice they do squat except piss off customers and providers.
What is that going to do?
Just from what I've seen in the past, Unless the FCC can benifit from a complaint being financial , I never notice they do squat except piss off customers and providers.
So where is the motivation for the local affiliate to negotiate in good faith? Tell us that oh wise one
